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re: The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim- expectations?

Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:48 pm to
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starting to wonder if trying to build an LOTR verse without the rights to any of his actual books is going to work out.


Warner Bros has the rights. They made this cheaply and quickly specifically to retain the rights while getting new Lord of the Rings projects up and running.

Which, to me, seems like a better reason to be wary of this than the "they put a girl in middle earth" nonsense.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:37 pm to
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starting to wonder if trying to build an LOTR verse without the rights to any of his actual books is going to work out
I think this is the issue, more than anything else.
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I’m hoping if it does well it will lead to a film treatment of the Silmarrilion
They can't, because they don't have the rights. Nobody has the rights to the First Age.

That's the true problem making anything Tolkien- book fans know the stories, and there can be no substitute.

I want to see Gondolin, Doriath, Nargothrond.... Angband. Not some pale unnamed semblance, but the actual places done justice. I really don't care that much about Rohan, to be honest. Even done well, it's only mildly interesting to me.

Morgoth laughs at the puny scale of the Third Age. He commanded armies of Balrogs and dragons, and the Valar had to wreck an entire continent to defeat him.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Peter Jackson made the Hobbit trilogy garbage. His opinion is now worthless.


To each their own. I’ll watch the shite out of all three.

The lord of the rings trilogy is arguably the best all time. You don’t just replicate that. A movie/trilogy can be good and entertaining without being tGOAT. Get past Legolas defying physics, those were entertaining films
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:28 am to
Finally got around to watching this last night and was pleasantly surprised. The portrayal of Helm was awesome, and Wulf was a good antagonist

The siege scenes were my favorite part.

Id give it a 7/10
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:32 am to
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I was willing to look past the animation style, but the story isn't doing it for me. Full on girl bossery for a character Tolkien himself didn't get around to even naming.

Helm Hammerhand? THAT is what I was hoping to see, a story of his legend being told. Not freaking Hera Sue: Warrior Princess of Rohan.

Hard pass.


This is NOT Tolkien

Funny looking back on this post after seeing the movie. Helm was a full on badass in this movie, and Hera barely even saw combat
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2185 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Id give it a 7/10

C-
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:12 pm to
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Corinthians420


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Id give it a 7/10



Were you baked when you watched it?

It's another pathetic woke shadow of greatness that the Professor would burn down Lothlorien over to keep from seeing a screen.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:46 pm to
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Were you baked when you watched it?

It's another pathetic woke shadow of greatness

the movie wasn't woke at all. actually the general concensus is the movie is about a 7/10 and it has an 83% audience score on RT.

the wokeness that was sky screamed about before release failed to appear in the movie. It was just a movie about the end of the first line of kings of Rohan.

Helm Hammerhand lived up to his reputation as the baddest mofo in the movie entirely.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 9:54 pm
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:14 am to
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and it has an 83% audience score on RT


If you trust Rotten Tomatoes then you're certainly baked

How much screen time did Helm have compared to the character that only existed in the original text as a mention and didn't even have a name?

Why was she even in the movie? You have Helm and his sons as ACTUAL characters from the story. Why do you think the writers felt the need to add her, and make her the main character?

(here's a hint, it rhymes with "poke")

Didn't the "baddest mofo in the movie" have to be saved by the stunning and brave unnamed character?

Wasn't that character a Mary Sue who was always right, saved everyone, and was a SLAY QUEEN!!! ?

Nah, it'll be fine.
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:21 am to
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Why was she even in the movie? You have Helm and his sons as ACTUAL characters from the story. Why do you think the writers felt the need to add her, and make her the main character?


She was the only person present for the entire siege.

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Didn't the "baddest mofo in the movie" have to be saved by the stunning and brave unnamed character?


He saved her.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:27 am to
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Didn't the "baddest mofo in the movie" have to be saved by the stunning and brave unnamed character?

Not at all. You must not have watched the movie
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10754 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:38 pm to
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You must not have watched the movie


Correct.

And I won’t.

So, what reason do you think they decided to feature a character that wasn’t even named in the book?

Be honest.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40844 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Didn't the "baddest mofo in the movie" have to be saved by the stunning and brave unnamed character?

Wasn't that character a Mary Sue who was always right, saved everyone, and was a SLAY QUEEN!!! ?


Maybe read up on it a little more before you try and own someone that has actually watched the movie
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10754 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:04 pm to
I was t trying to “own” him. I was asking questions.

I still see no reason to create a main character that doesn’t exist when you have true main characters available.

Unless you have an ulterior motive….
Posted by BradHawpe
Member since Jan 2025
292 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Id give it a 7/10



which means it was a 4/10 thanks for helping us know not to watch this.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40844 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:13 pm to
This very well might have an ulterior motive, I don't know. Seems like there were certainly other options they could have chosen for a main character. I said I was going to see it but when it came down to it I rewatched the trailer and decided against it. Probably catch it with streaming.

But it does seem like it's not the Mary Sue character everyone was making it out to be pre release.
Posted by BradHawpe
Member since Jan 2025
292 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Were you baked when you watched it?



He's on drugs for majority of his posts.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:14 pm to
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I still see no reason to create a main character that doesn’t exist when you have true main characters available.

Narratively it seemed they wanted to have a character that lived to see the fall of the first line of kings and introduction of the second line of kings.

If she had been a son she wouldn't have survived that transition.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10754 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:18 pm to
Did they kill every male in Helm’s Deep?

It could have been a random guy right?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:19 pm to
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It could have been a random guy right?

Sure but why would that be better than the kings daughter?
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