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re: The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power S1, Ep. 1 and 2 Thread | Amazon 9:00 pm EDT

Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:16 pm to
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Racists see color. You’re the only racist from the beginning


This whole thing started with y’all complaining about black elves.

Don’t play that game now.

If no one saw color who would even know this change was made.
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:17 pm to
Says the woke white guilt nerd speaking for black people on their behalf. You people are mentally ill.
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:18 pm to
We saw change of story and racism against tolkien.


You have seen color from the beginning you mentally ill freak.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:19 pm to
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Tolkien’s works are explicitly meant to reflect a cultural & regional narrative he felt needed telling.



Link? Tolkien didn't want in any way his stories to be a symbolic representation of certain things. In particular world events and people in particular.

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How pathetic that anyone would feel he needs correcting.


Not sure what this was in response to but yes, in a way it is pretty pathetic if someone thinks they feel they can tell a better story than Tolkien.

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This is no different than the Taliban destroying great Buddhist carvings & other ancient structures.


Except this show isn't destroying Tolkiens work.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Link? Tolkien didn't want in any way his stories to be a symbolic representation of certain things. In particular world events and people in particular.


Stop parroting generic pro-Amozon talking points. Read up on his motivations for constructing the world & from where he drew inspiration.



It is. The first strikes at destroying what he built.

The tallest trees aren’t felled with the first stroke.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:25 pm to
They always point to the quotes about Tolkien wanting to create a pre-historic mythology for English people.

Then somehow draw a straight line that such a thing means that unlike any other mythology, updating aspects of it, specifically the race of any of the inhabitants, is sacrilege.

Likely saying so in a home that has a picture of, or belongs/belonged to a church with an image of Jesus looking like long-hair Bradley Cooper.

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Bronc


Woke white racist nerd.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Stop parroting generic pro-Amozon talking points.


We can quote Tolkien telling you he hates allegory and prefers his readers thinking for themselves.

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It is. The first strikes at destroying what he built.


It is not. You’re just a chicken little who thinks anything the doesn’t approve of is some master conspiracy to destroy it.

You don’t even for 1 second consider people enjoy Tolkien’s works differently from you. That’s you’re interpretation of what’s important isn’t universal.

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:31 pm to
Never knew so many white woke nerds hated tolkien and his work.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:32 pm to
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Bronc


If Jesus were alive in the USA today, what color would he be on the US Census?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Never knew so many white woke nerds hated tolkien and his work.


You never had to make that fact you before I guess.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:34 pm to
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If Jesus were alive in the USA today, what color would he be on the US Census?


Would we give him a census as a foreign born radical cleric?
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:35 pm to
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SammyTiger


These white woke racist nerds can’t ever just answer a question.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65900 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Would we give him a census as a foreign born radical cleric?


Well obviously, we'd need to assume He's a citizen in this scenario.

Are you scared to answer the question?

ETA: To answer your question: it depends on who is in power. If He's not a citizen and a Democrat is in power, we'd still count Him. If He's not a citizen and a Republican is in power, we probably wouldn't.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:49 pm to
Which means I still Get a 7.4/10 from you.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42478 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Stop parroting generic pro-Amozon talking points. Read up on his motivations for constructing the world & from where he drew inspiration.


I don't know what pro Amazon talking points there is, I'm not even pro this show. What I'm saying is what Tolkien said in the forward to The Fellowship of the Rings. You know, the person who's opinion actually means something. Not just a bunch of people that have read Tolkien and think they know the meaning behind all of his writings. I'm going off of what he told his readers, not some Amazon talking points.

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It is. The first strikes at destroying what he built.

The tallest trees aren’t felled with the first stroke.


You might think Tolkien is a tree that can be felled, I don't.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:00 pm to
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I don't know what pro Amazon talking points there is, I'm not even pro this show. What I'm saying is what Tolkien said in the forward to The Fellowship of the Rings. You know, the person who's opinion actually means something. Not just a bunch of people that have read Tolkien and think they know the meaning behind all of his writings. I'm going off of what he told his readers, not some Amazon talking points.


He’s gonna accuse you of getting it from Reddit rather than actually talking about the quote.

Remember, elves being white is the most important think about Tolkien’s books. If you change that everything else falls apart.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:14 pm to
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Remember, elves being white is the most important think about Tolkien’s books. If you change that everything else falls apart.


You constantly bring up race which tells me that’s all you’re worried about you stupid frick.

You wanted to change the story and characters because you hate tolkien and white people. It was never about making the best show possible.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:19 pm to
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You constantly bring up race which tells me that’s all you’re worried about you stupid frick.


Nah, just worried about a good show.

The fact that some of y’all ranted about this for months and refuse to watch the show let’s me know what y’all care about.

I dont know how y’all can’t rant about black dwarves for months and months and months and the. Pretend like we’re the ones who care. We just don’t let you pretend it didn’t happen

I asked SEK point blank if this ruins the work and he said yes. So why are you pretending he doesn’t care.

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You wanted to change the story and characters because you hate tolkien and white people


I didn’t want to do any of that. I just don’t care enough to hate the show.

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It was never about making the best show possible.


It always was about that. An all white cast wouldn’t make this show better or worse. It will sink and swim on the writing and acting alone.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 3:24 pm
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