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re: The king (Netflix)
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:42 pm to TexasTiger90
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:42 pm to TexasTiger90
Should have been a series to develop the characters a little better.
One scene Thomas is mad because he was upstaged and not long after he was confirmed dead but nothing on how or any visuals.
Meeting the daughter he took as his wife but poor character development. Doesn't come in till the end. Could have shown more of her throughout the movie.
One scene Thomas is mad because he was upstaged and not long after he was confirmed dead but nothing on how or any visuals.
Meeting the daughter he took as his wife but poor character development. Doesn't come in till the end. Could have shown more of her throughout the movie.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:54 pm to Jaydeaux
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Thanks for the info. I enjoyed it but was wondering how factual could it be. Thanks for clearing it up. So, what about the entire manipulation part?
Well the Dauphin is a fictional character invented by Shakespeare.
The real Dauphin was a little kid during the reign of Henry V and was almost certainly not even at the battle of Agincourt, definitely didn't die there. I think the single combat thing is what happens in Shakespeare's play? Honestly I don't know much about Shakespearean plays.
As far as the manipulation in court to get him to attack the French... I have no doubt his political advisers would have pushed him in that direction, but faking an assassination attempt? I doubt it, they were actually already at war with France when he took over so no real need to provoke him.
They really should have named this movie Agincourt because it was just a build up to that one event and not his reign in total, Henry V reigns for 7 more years after Agincourt and fights in countless other battles, weird they stopped the movie in the middle of his reign. I guess the point was to show how he became a well known warrior king, and they succeeded with that.
The movie seemed a little rushed for no reason though, the character development was quick and the plot jumped around, I was hoping they were rushing through the crap to give us a long epic battle, but that didn't really happen.
I liked how they portrayed medieval sword fighting as basically a street fight with swords and armor instead of a skilled display of swordsmanship and honor, because they former portrayal seems more realistic.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 3:21 pm to nicholastiger
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One scene Thomas is mad because he was upstaged and not long after he was confirmed dead but nothing on how or any visuals
It also isn't historically accurate. Thomas was at Agincourt and was one of Henry's top lieutenants. He wasn't killed until AFTER Henry's victories in France.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:14 pm to RollTide1987
Chalamet was phenomenal in Beautiful Boy
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:58 pm to Tiger1242
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I liked how they portrayed medieval sword fighting as basically a street fight with swords and armor instead of a skilled display of swordsmanship and honor, because they former portrayal seems more realistic.
True and furthermore not that many swords were used except by nobility and/or the wealthy.
The low carbon high slag swords of the day made them brittle and prone to splintering when stuck in wood or other shield materials. Spears, axes and gauntlets where far more common .... combined with daggers for close inside work.
The Iranians and Turks held the secrets to the great steel and the only northerners they ever shared their steel with (not their forging secrets but ingots) were the Vikings for their very rare Ulbreth swords. (sic: +ULBRET+H)
The battle axe was king and spears were a close second when it came to street fighting and CQB. In open battlefields crossbows and later long bows became a big deal.
Sword play is always overrepresented by Hollywood.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:50 am to nicholastiger
The story on that is Thomas actually died during the 100 years war on behalf of his brother (Henry V). I think they just sped up his death timeline for the sake of the movie's storyline, so not much detail would be provided I would imagine
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:52 am to TexasTiger90
Watched this last night and it felt 20 minutes too long
Seemed like the Dalphin part was built as the finale....and then the movie just kept going for 30 more minutes
Seemed like the Dalphin part was built as the finale....and then the movie just kept going for 30 more minutes
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:40 pm to tiger_nurse
The screen grab they use is very “battle of the bastards”
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:42 pm to BigOrangeVols
I was Joking with my wife that once they bought the Armor for Outaw King we were gonna see a lot more of these.
I grew Up watching Branagh’s King Henry V and I am Pretty excited to get a minute to watch it.
I grew Up watching Branagh’s King Henry V and I am Pretty excited to get a minute to watch it.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:20 pm to tiger_nurse
Just finished this. Thought it was absolutely incredible and the best movie Netflix has ever put out
Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:23 pm to tiger_nurse
Chalamet and Patterson equals shitty product no surprise
Posted on 11/8/19 at 8:30 am to BigOrangeVols
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Hopefully Netflix starts making more of these historical pieces.
Marco Polo............
Posted on 11/11/19 at 7:18 am to GrammarKnotsi
Oof true that, I started watching it but dropped off after a couple of episodes.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 8:47 am to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
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Chalamet was phenomenal in Beautiful Boy
Can't wait to see him in DUNE next year
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:13 pm to YumYum Sauce
Enjoyed the movie, however it would have been better off as a 10 part series and they could of stuck with with more historical accuracy.
Anzicourt has some scenes that look like they were copied and pasted straight from the battle of the bastards.
I can’t even imagine how difficult hand to hand combat must of been as a fully armored man-at-arms in those days. Those guys were literally just trying to beat the piss out each other in the mud, while stabbing at the necks.
Could arrows even penetrate heavy breast plate?
Anzicourt has some scenes that look like they were copied and pasted straight from the battle of the bastards.
I can’t even imagine how difficult hand to hand combat must of been as a fully armored man-at-arms in those days. Those guys were literally just trying to beat the piss out each other in the mud, while stabbing at the necks.
Could arrows even penetrate heavy breast plate?
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:45 pm to JohnnyBgood
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Could arrows even penetrate heavy breast plate?
Just depended. Longbows with the proper needle bodkin or similar maybe but probably not the chain maille underneath.
Crossbows up close with the proper armor piercing arrowhead. It was all very specialized.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:53 pm to tiger_nurse
Even with the historical missteps, it was still better than most of the stuff I watch.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 8:02 pm to tiger_nurse
Great film, I really enjoyed it. Never felt slow or too long to me. Also, nice to see a film like this that didn't have a bunch of gratuitous and unecessary sex scenes.
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:58 am to wildtigercat93
Epic scene when Hal is we crowned
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