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The king (Netflix)

Posted on 11/3/19 at 1:27 am
Posted by tiger_nurse
Member since Aug 2012
501 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 1:27 am
Did a search and didn’t see anything posted yet. Just finished it. I enjoyed it if you’re looking for a good history war movie. My only complaint was it got slow at a few parts. The kid who plays king Henry was great. Robert Pattinson was a great bad guy, but without spoiling it, upset me during the war scene. Thoughts?
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3067 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:46 am to
Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. Hopefully Netflix starts making more of these historical pieces.
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4194 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Did a search and didn’t see anything posted yet. Just finished it. I enjoyed it if you’re looking for a good history war movie. My only complaint was it got slow at a few parts. The kid who plays king Henry was great. Robert Pattinson was a great bad guy, but without spoiling it, upset me during the war scene. Thoughts?


Agree on all accounts. I didn't get the slow feeling, but I definitely know where you're talking about. Felt like a lot of it was needed to fully show Henry's transformation. Forgot Pattinson was in this, and thought he did a great job.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64887 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:58 am to
Major historical inaccuracies aside, I was entertained. Timothee Chalamet is the next big award-worthy actor and he did a fantastic job as Henry V.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:03 am to
slooooooooooooow and embellished, fictional.
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 10:04 am
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14149 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 1:20 pm to
His British accent kept coming and going, similar to Kevin Costner’s in Robin Hood.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9353 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 1:54 pm to
Watched it today. Was fantastic. Wish it was a series.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31870 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 2:02 pm to
I watched the 1st 45 mins last night, it’s not too bad but it’s got some pretty glaring inaccuracies I noticed right away. (I teach this era of history so people who aren’t as studied on it may not notice?)

1. Henry was never revoked as heir and Thomas’s of Lancaster was never named as heir. Henry was named heir two days after his dad took over in 1399. While he was expelled from court in 1411 because of disagreements with his father and Thomas was given his seat, but his position of heir never changed

2. Speaking of Henry’s brother Thomas, he didn’t die before Henry took over in 1413, he lived until 1421 and was a leader in Henry’s army

3. Henry V was exceptionally tall for the times (allegedly he was 6’3” which is outrageously tall for the 1400’s).


I’m sure there are more as I watch. The drama and production level have been decent, and despite the inaccuracies I mostly enjoyed what I watched, it is supposed to be entertainment and not informational after all
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 3:29 pm to
I loved it

I with Netflix would produce more movies like this. Outlaw King I also liked as well.

Both had their inaccuracies but damn the cinematography was amazing.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 6:25 pm to
Been wondering which Henry this is about ... V makes sense.

Yeah, if that's the case I'm too much of a stickler for 1066 - 1550 Brtish History to watch this and enjoy it probably.

Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:11 pm to
Love the movie, but man the changes in history and left out.

When Henry comes to the throne this war has been on since 1337. There where times of peace, but this is why it is called the 100 years war.

The crossing of the river was left out and that is the key to why you have the battle of Agincourt in 1415.

The English did not win the 100 years war, the French ended up the winner in the end.

France like the English is not united at the start as well.
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6426 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:13 pm to
It's very good.
Kind of sticks more to Shakespeare's love for king Henry.

I knew a good bit about Aegincourt but never placed the King responsible.

I enjoyed the movie.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:27 pm to
Glad you folks enjoyed it. Will definitely watch next weekend.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23959 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:42 pm to
I haven’t watched it, but I read the synopsis thing on Netflix tonight.

It’s based on Shakespeare’s works...how historically accurate were they?
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3796 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:12 pm to
Took a lot of liberty with history. I didn’t like them trying to borrow equally from Shakespeare and the real story. Hal was brought as a hard warrior fighting in Wales and Scotland as a teen. There’s enough rich events that happened in his life to make a great movie. And Falstaff character really bothered me, they should’ve made him the real Duke of York.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:41 pm to
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It’s based on Shakespeare’s works...how historically accurate were they?

Shakespeare was the MSM of the day.

He catered to those in power. His Richard III was pure fiction. There are many who now believe Shakespeare did not write Shakespeare.

Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4830 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:23 pm to
[img]He catered to those in power. His Richard III was pure fiction. There are many who now believe Shakespeare did not write Shakespeare.[/img]

These three things are not nearly as related as their proximity in your paragraph implies. The catered to power comment is eyebrow-raising. He was bound by whims of the masses that saw his plays. The theater was so popular because it was cheap enough to be enjoyed by almost everyone.

No one should ever mistake Shakespeare for history, and they generally don't. He was creating dramas for people to enjoy. Using historical figures brought people in. He was using the public domain characters of his time.

There's a great episode of the Our Fake History podcast that breaks down why those "Shakespeare didn't write the plays" theories should be treated as nonsense.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18740 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:09 am to
Thanks for the info. I enjoyed it but was wondering how factual could it be. Thanks for clearing it up. So, what about the entire manipulation part?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17124 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. Hopefully Netflix starts making more of these historical pieces.



Are they going to do a follow up to this movie?

Wikipedia shows King Henry V as an incredible ruler for the short time he reigned.

The Hundred Years War has many great storylines
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:55 am to
Watched it last night. Very well made
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