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re: The Jinx- new HBO miniseries
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:01 pm to massiveattack
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:01 pm to massiveattack
Douglas is cut from the same mold as Robert. That letter he wrote to Jarecki, as a professional, was pretty revealing.
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:03 pm to massiveattack
Holy shite. That blows a hole in my Cadaver Note dog theory.
I bet his wife knew he was killing the dogs and that's what set off her fear.
I bet his wife knew he was killing the dogs and that's what set off her fear.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:12 pm to buckeye_vol
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That letter he wrote to Jarecki, as a professional, was pretty revealing.
I can't blame him for that. He did not coming off looking good in the documentary but that is one sided and possibly biased. The guy is obviously terrified of his brother and has been for a long time (with good reason). If the story about their mother is BS, I don't blame him at all for that letter. He should clarify what happened if he feels like someone us unfairly representing someone in his family. Andrew Jarecki's background is similar to their families. I'm sure it was a big draw to the story, which he is dedicated a ton of years to at this point.
I'm not sure if anyone has seen Capturing the Friedmans but it is also a really good documentary by this director.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:20 pm to wildtigercat93
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Doug has his own issues. He's just trying to distance himself now
Not saying you're wrong, but that's all complete assumption on your part. He wasn't in the doc.
And that interview with him was before it premiered.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:24 pm to buckeye_vol
This family proves that the more money you inherit, the nuttier you are.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 9:35 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Can't wait to see deguerin's defense.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:30 pm to tigerpimpbot
quote:Unless they have evidence that we are unaware of, it may never make it to trial. If it does, like the recent arrest, there may be a layer of self-publicity out there (i.e., having the evidence for nearly a year but not making an arrest until right before the finale).
Can't wait to see deguerin's defense.
Durst looks pretty guilty as a casual observer, but in a courtroom these top notch lawyers will be able to tear this evidence apart. He got couldn't be convicted of killing Morris Black, and there was export more evidence in that case.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:45 pm to buckeye_vol
He won't be convicted.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 12:12 am to Tiger Ryno
Just finished it. That was really fascinating. Not saying he's going to be convicted because of the show obviously, but that was still very entertaining. What a creepy guy, killer or not.
I feel almost certain that the investigators in the early investigation were paid off by him/the family if they truly did as shitty of a job as was portrayed in the show. That goes for the jurors in the Texas trial as well.
I feel almost certain that the investigators in the early investigation were paid off by him/the family if they truly did as shitty of a job as was portrayed in the show. That goes for the jurors in the Texas trial as well.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 12:15 am
Posted on 3/18/15 at 3:35 am to massiveattack
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That letter he wrote to Jarecki, as a professional, was pretty revealing.
Did I miss this letter, when did they show it?
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And that interview with him was before it premiered.
I feel like I'm missing something here
What episode was a letter in and which one with an interview?
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:04 am to massiveattack
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When he was in jail in Pennsylvania, he was recorded saying, ‘I want to Igor Douglas.'”
I'm gonna start using this. Man, I feel like I'm about to Igor my 1st round bracket.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 7:53 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 3/18/15 at 7:57 am to buckeye_vol
If Scott Peterson can be convicted then Durst easily can. Not saying he will. Forensic handwriting analysis is evidence in a California courtroom and the cadaver note is their only piece of evidence left by the killer.
They have him arriving in California 3 days prior, moving south, and flying out the next day. He has capability (see Morris black), opportunity (see California) and motive (see Kathy durst) the cadaver note will match his handwriting and the letter sent previously where he misspelled Beverly the exact same way in the exact same handwriting. The checks he wrote Susan Herman can help strengthen the motive. They also have evidence of intent to flee.
And again, he's going to have to talk about chopping up a body which will be admissible. When he is available for cross examination he won't be dealing with some bumfrick hillbilly prosecutor.
I actually think they have as strong a case as one can have without DNA, witnesses, and a murder weapon
They have him arriving in California 3 days prior, moving south, and flying out the next day. He has capability (see Morris black), opportunity (see California) and motive (see Kathy durst) the cadaver note will match his handwriting and the letter sent previously where he misspelled Beverly the exact same way in the exact same handwriting. The checks he wrote Susan Herman can help strengthen the motive. They also have evidence of intent to flee.
And again, he's going to have to talk about chopping up a body which will be admissible. When he is available for cross examination he won't be dealing with some bumfrick hillbilly prosecutor.
I actually think they have as strong a case as one can have without DNA, witnesses, and a murder weapon
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 8:01 am
Posted on 3/18/15 at 7:58 am to buckeye_vol
Then if he beats that, he goes back to Louisiana where he gets charged with the same wrap that sent BG to prison for 15 years.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:13 am to steakbombLSU
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paid off by him/the family if they truly did as shitty of a job as was portrayed in the show. That goes for the jurors in the Texas trial as well
I really don't understand why this concept is hard for people to grasp about the galveston jury. Not a single person on that jury thinks he's innocent. They know for certain he chopped up the body and dumped it. They know he's an awful person and shoudl probably be in a jail cell. But that's not what the case was about. The jury had ONE JOB, which was to decide beyond resonable doubt that he was guilty of the CHARGE brought by the DA, which in this case was MB's murder. RD's team did a good job of planting doubt that it was actually a murder. They all know that MB died as a result of RD's actions. They know he dismembered him. What they don't KNOW was if it was an actual murder.
The real doofus in that case was whoever presented that specific charge. The jury did what they were supposed to do. That's how our legal system works.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:16 am to WG_Dawg
quote:the problem is they all but ignored him dismembering a body, which is NOT their job.
The jury had ONE JOB, which was to decide beyond resonable doubt that he was guilty of the CHARGE brought by the DA, which in this case was MB's murder
It is about the best evidence you can possibly have to show intent...they were paid, or they're fricking retarded.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:26 am to DelU249
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the problem is they all but ignored him dismembering a body, which is NOT their job.
Um no, that had no part in their job. RD admitted to the entire room that he did dismember and dump the parts. Everyone in there knew he did that. But that's not what they had to decide on. The only thing they had to decide was if he murdered MB.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:26 am to DelU249
quote:I find this to be relatively weak evidence of opportunity at this time. The closest they can put him to LA is six hours away. For comparison, one could drive from NYC to DC and halfway back. It would be easy to raise reasonable doubt about opportunity if this is the evidence.
They have him arriving in California 3 days prior, moving south, and flying out the next day.
quote:This is a good point.
He has capability (see Morris black)
quote:I think the motive is also relatively weak (plausible though). It requires too many assumptions built upon assumptions, even if logical. It assumes:
opportunity (see California) and motive (see Kathy durst)
1. Durst is responsible for his wife's disappearance (likely but still a theory, not a fact).
2. Susan knew about it.
3. Durst knew (or assumed) Susan was going to talk to the DA.
4. Durst believed she would give up incriminating information (and likely implicate herself).
5. Durst thought the information was worth the risk of murdering her.
Each assumption by itself seems highly probable; however, taken together that probability decreases with each assumption.
I think this also brings up a question. If that information was incriminating, and Susan was so disposable, why did he wait until the one time it would put considerably more suspicion on him, and not anytime in the prior 20 years? I understand that he was probably desperate.
I just think that the motive has so many assumptions (built upon one another) that lawyers could easily create reasonable doubt.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 8:29 am
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:30 am to buckeye_vol
without a doubt he can beat it, but I'm saying if Scott Peterson can get murder 1 and the needle, so can Robert durst
the evidence isn't shite, it just isn't superb either
also depends on where they get the jury pool from...see this benefited oj when they moved it downtown so he got stupid people to preside over his obvious guilt. Beverly Hills is affluent and I would imagine, educated.
Anyway, he's spending the rest of his life in jail because even if he beats that, he's going to Angola. That shite is iron clad, but NOLA can always NOLA ($$$$$$)
the evidence isn't shite, it just isn't superb either
also depends on where they get the jury pool from...see this benefited oj when they moved it downtown so he got stupid people to preside over his obvious guilt. Beverly Hills is affluent and I would imagine, educated.
Anyway, he's spending the rest of his life in jail because even if he beats that, he's going to Angola. That shite is iron clad, but NOLA can always NOLA ($$$$$$)
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:31 am to DelU249
quote:He pled guilty to evidence tampering and served three years for it. So that was taken into account as a separate charge.
the problem is they all but ignored him dismembering a body, which is NOT their job.
It is about the best evidence you can possibly have to show intent...they were paid, or they're fricking retarded.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 8:32 am
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