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re: The Incredibles was an awesome movie, and i can't wait for the second one.

Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:41 pm to
I don't understand the downvotes there.

The Incredibles were clearly an homage to the Fantastic Four.

It's also proof positive the Fantastic Four can be a successful movie franchise.

I love The Incredibles...and yes Pixars best.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:48 pm to
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i can't wait for the second one.


Are we getting the UnderMiner in the 2nd one??
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:55 pm to
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It bothers me that it took this long for a sequel

I know, right? If ever a movie was set up for a sequel, it was this one. They even introduced a new villain in the final scene! Instead, we get friggin Cars 2 and Monsters University.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Are we getting the UnderMiner in the 2nd one??

rather than recreate FF issue #1, i think they should jump straight to a REAL galactus-type villian if they're homaging the FF franchies.

This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 2:31 pm to
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I don't understand the downvotes there.

The Incredibles were clearly an homage to the Fantastic Four.


I haven't downvoted and I enjoyed the Incredibles immensely, but...

Bird's insistence that the movie had nothing to do with the Fantastic Four or any other comic (while it took heavily from the FF, America VS The Justice Society, and Watchmen) left a bad taste. While it's possible that he could really have been a non-comic guy who happened to come up with the same ideas as previous comic book writers, you'd think that someone on that immense creative staff who grew up on comics would've pointed out that they were making an FF movie.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 3:47 pm to
Exactly ...from their power sets (reshuffled) to the family dynamic to the final scene mirroring F4 #1 how could anyone on the crew not see this?

Brad Bird is everyone's pick for a MCU F4 movie because of this..
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 3:54 pm to
After Tomorrowland, Bird should go back to animated movies. He lost all of the buzz that he'd garnered from Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 4:41 pm to
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I don't understand the downvotes there.

The Incredibles were clearly an homage to the Fantastic Four.

It's also proof positive the Fantastic Four can be a successful movie franchise.

I love The Incredibles...and yes Pixars best.



Except the Incredibles was better than any version of the Fantastic Four. All four characters were more developed, more likable, and more interesting than the Fantastic Four in comic or movie forms we've seen.

The fact that the powers of the four main characters were an "homage" was a fun comic book reference, not a rip-off. Mr Freeze was a fun comic book reference to the Iceman, that doesn't make the Incredibles about Marvel comics in general so much as a fun insider reference for the people who love comic books.

JMO. I loved the Incredibles.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:02 pm to
Lucius: You tell me where my suit is, woman! We are talking about the greater good!
Honey: 'Greater good?' I am your wife! I'm the greatest *good* you are ever gonna get!
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:32 pm to
It's a VERY anti-PC movie.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:34 pm to
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It's a VERY anti-PC movie.


It really is a fantastic film for telling kids that things will in all likelihood not work out in the way you hoped for them to. And when that happens you have two options: Nut up and become a better man, or shut the frick up and get in line. You can be super if you put forth the effort. But it can not be given to you, for that will destroy society and yourself as a whole.

Below the surface, it's a very deep film that was well ahead of its time. Syndrome is a mockery of our modern 2016 society compared to the hard working noble family that seeks to better themselves. What Syndrome represents is simply bullshite that seeks to weaken society as a whole, and he will destroy anyone no matter how innocent that stands in his way. In fact it goes so deep that Syndrome explains to another character why his symbol isn't literally "BS". He represents and mocks everything today's youth stand for, and it makes him one of the greatest villains of all time because of it. It's spooky how well this film predicted modern day society.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:38 pm to
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It's spooky how well this film predicted modern day society.


Everyone's special.

That just another way of saying no one is.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:51 pm to
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Everyone's special.

That just another way of saying no one is.


Yep, and that is a fantastic message to send to kids. You can be special in your own way, but you're not special sitting on your arse waiting for someone to deliver it to you, like Syndrome wanted. You bust your arse to be truly special.

And modern day animation drives me fricking insane, in that the plot is almost always the same: social outcast proves naysayers wrong and is accepted as awesome in the community. That is around half of animated movies made, which is a dangerous message to send to children. The only movies in which I think it actually works are Shrek and How to Train Your Dragon, and the rest of them are total shite.

Inside Out last year was so fricking great in that it tells children that hardships and getting fricked in life are a good thing, in that it makes you stronger. Sadness is a good emotion to have and not one you should be protected from, like the SJW insist. Pixar has always been ahead of the game and I really hope they continue to tell children the brutal truths of life that no one else is telling them.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:56 pm to
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Inside Out last year was so fricking great


My seconds all time favorite Pixar movie behind the original Toy Story.

You have to murder your inner child in order to grow up.

What a brutally painful lesson. Taught both by killing Bing Bong and by Andy giving Woody away.

I will admit, as a grown arse man, I cried.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:57 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:08 pm to
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What a brutally painful lesson. Taught both by killing Bing Bong and by Andy giving Woody away.

I will admit, as a grown arse man, I cried.


It is a painful lesson, but one we all need.

And there's nothing to be ashamed of crying in that movie. It proves you are human. The hardass man stereotype is bullshite as far as I'm concerned. There is a softness in all of us, and that's what makes us human. I think not getting emotionally involved in Inside Out more reflects on you being a bad person than someone who cried during it. I just don't understand how anyone can't enjoy the film. I cried as well watching the movie.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:33 pm to
But Syndrome built all those fancy fricking toys and that empire and acquired an impressive kill count.

His whole plan was to replace the supers with himself and then when he got bored share the power so he could make more money and move on to whatever is next.

He was a Lex Luthor when he's succeeding.

It wasn't anything PC or SJW, fricker wanted to be paid for making you a super.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:06 am to
I never said Syndrome was SJW culture; I said he was a mockery of it. His overall goal is for society to turn into SJW mindset simply to spite Mr. Incredible. His sharing was "after he had his fun". He was going to make everyone dependent on him and be the parent of these kids and make them all equal.

Lex Luthor (at least in a proper adaptation) would never, ever do that. Luthor sees himself as a champion for humanity at large, so he would never go PC with them. Lex would destroy PC culture.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:43 am to
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I just don't understand how anyone can't enjoy the film. I cried as well watching the movie.


I'm pretty sure I've cried watching more than half of Pixar's films
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:53 am to
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It wasn't anything PC or SJW, fricker wanted to be paid for making you a super.


Syndrome was Mark Zuckerburg.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:08 am to
One of my favorite scenes (out of many) in the film was right after Syndrome took down the plane carrying Helen and the kids.

It's a classic family movie moment - something bad has happened, the kids are scared, and they turn to a parent for comfort - they want to be told that everything's gonna be okay.

What does Helen tell them? "Remember the bad guys on the shows you used to watch on Saturday mornings? Well, these guys aren't like those guys. They won't exercise restraint because you are children. They *will* kill you if they get the chance. Do *not* give them that chance."

Just brilliant.
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