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re: The Gilded Age Season 3 Discussion
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The show does a pretty good of interweaving real life stories from that period in with the fictional. Alva Vanderbilt's first marriage ended in a similar fashion, she ended up divorcing him, and also ended up a very rich woman as a result. She then went on to remarry in a love match until he passed. So I'll be curious if it mirrors that one.
Yes. Fellowes does a great job of this. In reality when Alva Vanderbilt divorced she thought herself too powerful to be ostracized from NY society after conquering it. She was wrong. She was made a pariah from the divorce. Her eventual return to favor came when she hosted the Duke of Marlborough in Newport and eventually brokered the marriage to her daughter Consuelo. Blenheim Palace (home to the Churchills) is what is today because of the Vanderbilt money he received for the marriage.
The artist featured in the first episode is John Singer Sargent- one of my top 5 favorite artists of all time. The portraits Bertha mentioned in the episode were of Louisiana's own Virginie Gautreau (Madame X)
and Charlotte Burckhardt (The Lady With the Rose).
Singer Sargent was a master portraitist and had unerring talent with motion and light in his other works. i make special trips to Met just to see his works. Madame X is huge and amazing to view in person. Her skin alone is an amazing feat.
Amazing talent that built on the masters and came to define an entire age. And a natural evolution from the first season's featuring of Stanford White (the architect) who supposedly designed the Russell's new residence.
I don't care if it is a soap opera. Fellowes may add some flesh but at least he uses the proper bones of the past. His use of real historical events and characters based on real people or the real people themselves deliver the past in a way that makes them fresh for a new audience.
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:42 pm to BigAppleTiger
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Singer Sargent was a master portraitist and had unerring talent with motion and light in his other works. i make special trips to Met just to see his works. Madame X is huge and amazing to view in person. Her skin alone is an amazing feat.
Amazing talent that built on the masters and came to define an entire age. And a natural evolution from the first season's featuring of Stanford White (the architect) who supposedly designed the Russell's new residence.
They also nailed Sargent's physical look on the show. Enjoyed that Madame X commentary as well. We saw a couple of his works at Biltmore last year, one in particular of Frederick Law Olmsted in his twilight years (who designed the gardens and was involved in the forestry in Asheville).
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I don't care if it is a soap opera. Fellowes may add some flesh but at least he uses the proper bones of the past. His use of real historical events and characters based on real people or the real people themselves deliver the past in a way that makes them fresh for a new audience.
And lets be honest, the social aspect of what was going on during that period WAS a soap opera. It was all pettiness, jealousy, social climbing, and the like.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:02 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Frederick Law Olmsted
A great american. He (ahem) completely changed the landscape of America. His offices and museum in Brookline Mass and the work he did across the country from parks, public spaces, and college campuses is unrivalled. Also his sons designed the LSU campus plan, and also Stanford - which is why you can see the similarity in the two. Never been to Biltmore= but did not know his portrait by Sargent was there. Damn it- now I have to go.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:50 pm to BigAppleTiger
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Never been to Biltmore= but did not know his portrait by Sargent was there. Damn it- now I have to go.
If you have any interest in the Gilded Age period, it's well worth the visit. Absolutely beautiful estate and a ton of artwork, sculptures, and other textiles there as well. Multiple Monets and Whistlers.
Part of the Biltmore Collection
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A great american. He (ahem) completely changed the landscape of America. His offices and museum in Brookline Mass and the work he did across the country from parks, public spaces, and college campuses is unrivalled. Also his sons designed the LSU campus plan, and also Stanford - which is why you can see the similarity in the two.
Olmsted designed the major park system here in Louisville and it's one of the really beautiful things about here that doesn't get talked about enough. He and his son designed, maintained the grounds at Biltmore Estates. One of the most beautiful parts is the drive up to the estate (you don't see the mansion until the very end at the top of the mountain) and the sides of the road are just full of native foliage, tons of azaleas, mountain laurels, and rhododendrons. He also pioneered forestry management in North Carolina and worked with Gifford Pinchot to renew much of that land as well.
Like you said, not an understatement to discuss how he changed landscape in the US.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/26/25 at 4:02 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The June 22 debut of the HBO drama gathered 2.7 million cross-platform viewers in the United States over three days. That’s a 27 percent improvement on the season two premiere (2.1 million viewers over three days) in October 2023. The series debut in 2022 drew in 2 million viewers over the same amount of time.
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:39 pm to Esquire
So i know Fellowes draws a lot from real life, and it looks like he's writing about Consuelo Vanderbilt (Gladys). But I wonder if he's going to give her an out.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:42 am to BluegrassBelle
Haven't watched the latest episode but they've mentioned Jay Gould twice now. I always kind of thought Russell's character was very loosely based off Jay Gould. I guess he's just more of a fictional rival to Gould.
Looks like the costume budget for this season went to 60 million, up from last seasons 45 million.
Show is enjoyable but man do they telegraph the story lines. As soon as a character is introduced you know what they're about to be.
Looks like the costume budget for this season went to 60 million, up from last seasons 45 million.
Show is enjoyable but man do they telegraph the story lines. As soon as a character is introduced you know what they're about to be.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:47 am to iwyLSUiwy
When Gladys' pearls rained down onto the floor, I said, "Oh no, she's Batman's mother." To which my wife responded, "You've gone too far. That's too dark."
Can I get a board ruling on this?
Can I get a board ruling on this?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 9:56 am to Fewer Kilometers
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When Gladys' pearls rained down onto the floor, I said, "Oh no, she's Batman's mother." To which my wife responded, "You've gone too far. That's too dark."
Can I get a board ruling on this?
Has she watched Downton Abbey (Julian Fellowes most popular show)? They kill off some characters on that thing in really heartbreaking ways, so it'd be on brand for him.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:06 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Haven't watched the latest episode but they've mentioned Jay Gould twice now. I always kind of thought Russell's character was very loosely based off Jay Gould. I guess he's just more of a fictional rival to Gould.
I think he's loosely based on a combination of folks from that period. Like you said, Jay Gould being one and Cornelius Vanderbilt being another (considering how he built his empire). Bertha (Mrs. Russell) likens to Alva Vanderbilt and Gladys to her daughter Consuelo Vanderbilt in a lot of ways.
But both of those families (and some specific people) are still mentioned by name in the show, so they exist in the universe despite the Russell's being modeled after them.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:13 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:Are you kidding? We watched the trailer for the final movie twice last night. She knows Duchess Gladys is likely to get the Matthew Crawley treatment.
Has she watched Downton Abbey (Julian Fellowes most popular show)?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:35 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Are you kidding? We watched the trailer for the final movie twice last night. She knows Duchess Gladys is likely to get the Matthew Crawley treatment.
Then your comment wasn’t too dark.
Should’ve dropped a “I think Lady Sybil had a Pearl necklace”.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 10:46 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:You kiss your family with that mouth? Jeez.
Should’ve dropped a “I think Lady Sybil had a Pearl necklace”.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:48 am to Fewer Kilometers
No freaking way they kill her. I just don't see it.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:09 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Should’ve dropped a “I think Lady Sybil had a Pearl necklace”.
Was nice to see Armstrong show an inkling of kindness towards Jack. That patent better be airtight because I’ll be pissed if the clockmen steal it.
Anybody want to take a temperance pledge with me? I loved Agnes’ reaction to Armstrong signing the pledge.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 12:18 am to Esquire
quote:She has to be the most naive and out of sync character in the history of TV. She makes Rose on Golden Girls look like a streetwise pimp.
Anybody want to take a temperance pledge with me?
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:10 pm to iwyLSUiwy
the show is a decent historical drama
Actually find the black character's story to almost be the most authentic at least historically to the types
Actually find the black character's story to almost be the most authentic at least historically to the types
Posted on 7/14/25 at 5:57 am to OWLFAN86
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Actually find the black character's story to almost be the most authentic at least historically to the types
Pretty sure poor Gladys is going through something that was authentic for her type, except it was the Duke of Marlboro.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:54 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Jack better be moving on up soon. Hopefully he doesn’t deposit it in a bank that is soon to fail. I can’t wait to see Agnes’ reaction to how rich he is now.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 3:16 pm
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