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re: The Fugitive (1993) - Legal Question
Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:05 pm to SystemsGo
Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:05 pm to SystemsGo
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Criminal trespass?
Yeah he was trespassing...go to a dam and try to access the areas he was and see if you get arrested
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He was a doctor.
Not at that hospital....dude took someone else s badge to gain access to the areas he went.
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Escaping Federal Custody
Really?
Very much really...that was probably his biggest crime.
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Breaking in?
Unlawfully gaining access to a hospital? Is that better?
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Breaking into an amputees house
To prove he was innocent. Not likely to get prosecuted.
Says you
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:09 pm to rondo
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Not at that hospital....dude took someone else s badge to gain access to the areas he went
Dr. Desmondo...
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:21 pm to rondo
Pretty sure he did an awful lot of jaywalking in that movie too. 
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:20 am to Zap Rowsdower
Well still all of those charges still trump murder.. and no doubt they would go easy on him. 
So the I.D. he used was his own?
So the I.D. he used was his own?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:23 am to rondo
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Would Dr. Richard Kimble have been held responsible for all the crimes he committed while he was a fugitive?
Quite likely, although he'd probably be shown lenience.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:31 am to RollTide1987
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Uh....I guess you don't remember this guy's performance that year:
U.S. Marshal > Nazi
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:13 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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So the I.D. he used was his own?
No...He put his picture over Jose's picture.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:36 am to rondo
He was an innocent man that was prosecuted and put in prison (not mentioning time in jail waiting for trial and bail/bond expenses), which is a pretty huge black eye for the State. He would have a civil claim against a ton of people (the drug company, the two guys that set up his wife's murder and the court for malicious prosecution). I'm guessing the State drops any other pending charges in good faith or assurance that he doesn't pursue civil damages..
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:59 am to brmark70816
You switched the samples!
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:00 am to brmark70816
His escaping from custody and circumventing due process and the appeals system directly caused the death of a police officer pal.
He is a POS and needs prison time.
He is a POS and needs prison time.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:04 pm to rondo
Another question, he most likely lost his license to practice medicine. Do they reinstate that after he is vindicated from the murder or do the other crimes stop him from ever being allowed to practice medicine again?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:23 pm to rondo
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His escaping from custody and circumventing due process and the appeals system directly caused the death of a police officer pal.
He is a POS and needs prison time.
I can't tell if you are joking or not. But he never escaped. He was on a bus that wrecked. During which time he saved someone while trying to get to safety. Given that his charges and prosecution were false, he was evading unlawful custody. Which would have been justified once his sentence was overturned.
He also saved the life of a child (who wasn't properly diagnosed) and two other law enforcement officers (the cop on the subway and the marshal at the end). While helping to apprehend two murders and exposing a vast criminal conspiracy. Dr. Kimble would have got massively paid and properly received commendations from several law enforcement branches. He solved the crime in less than a week that the police didn't even bother to fully investigate. I would bet Chicago PD wouldn't touch him for the rest of his life.
The trespassing stuff is totally reaching. He was never caught at any of the locations and he didn't vandalize or steal anything. He was given permission to use the hospitals by his Doctor friends and hospital staff. The only one that kind of had an issue was Julianne Moore, who had to eat crow cause he saved the patient she mistreated (saving her a lawsuit).
I just don't see how he would have ever seen the inside of a courtroom again. He would have opened a clinic on the 10's of millions in settlement money he got. Wrote a best selling book and movie. Married the lesbian teacher from Glee and lived happily ever after..
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:16 pm to brmark70816
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Married the lesbian teacher from Glee and lived happily ever after..
Nah, she just stays a friend. He's going back to handle his business with 1993 Julianne Moore.
And he'll probably still have his license pulled but the hospital will exploit a loophole where he can still work there as a maintenance engineer named Desmondo and just act as a backstop for all of the doctors while he shuttles kids back and forth from the operating rooms.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:01 pm to rondo
Given all he had to accomplish to prove his innoncence, I'm sure he would have been given suspended sentences.
Also, in light of the fact that he saved TWO lives (the little boy on the cart in the hospital and the police guard he saved from the bus before the train hit it), they might have gone easy on him.
I always wanted the movie to end on a postscript of Kimble later walking into the office of the 2 a-hole DAs who prosecuted him and spit in their eyes....then sue all of them and obtain a judgment from them....
Also, in light of the fact that he saved TWO lives (the little boy on the cart in the hospital and the police guard he saved from the bus before the train hit it), they might have gone easy on him.
I always wanted the movie to end on a postscript of Kimble later walking into the office of the 2 a-hole DAs who prosecuted him and spit in their eyes....then sue all of them and obtain a judgment from them....
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:27 pm to MetryTyger
Richard Kimble is a thug POS and should go to prison for that beard.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:42 pm to brmark70816
Think how much money Kimble would have coming his way:
- Wife's Life Insurance and/or inheritance (She's More Rich)
- Lawsuit against City/County/State for Wrongful Conviction
- Civil Suit against the big pharma company who will probably do whatvever they could to settle out of court
- Book Rights
- Movie Rights
- Potential Speaking/Consulting Fees
Not to mention he'll probably get his old job back which means a very healthy salary. Kimble's gonna get paid.
- Wife's Life Insurance and/or inheritance (She's More Rich)
- Lawsuit against City/County/State for Wrongful Conviction
- Civil Suit against the big pharma company who will probably do whatvever they could to settle out of court
- Book Rights
- Movie Rights
- Potential Speaking/Consulting Fees
Not to mention he'll probably get his old job back which means a very healthy salary. Kimble's gonna get paid.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:21 pm to FairhopeTider
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Lawsuit against City/County/State for Wrongful Conviction
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how he would have a law suit against the city/county/state unless the prosecutors or police fabricated evidence against him or knew he was innocent/had evidence he was innocent that they failed to provide to the defense and went ahead with the prosecution.
I'd be more concerned if I was his attorney. He was a prominent surgeon with an apparently loaded wife, how does this dude not have the best legal team in Chicago? How incompetent does his legal team have to be to not be able to uncover the evidence Kimble did on his own while having to hide from the police? That's who dropped the ball. At worst the police were lazy, the husband is always a prime suspect, they had the 911 call, why waste time looking for a 1 armed man, when we got an easy clearance?
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:22 pm to brmark70816
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But he never escaped. He was on a bus that wrecked
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I can't tell if you are joking or not
Posted on 2/18/15 at 4:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm just saying, he didn't plan an escape. He had to get out of the bus or he would have died. The one guard basically left him to die and ran off, so he wasn't under any type of restraint or obligation to stay in that area. I guess he could have looked for an officer to turn himself into. But very special circumstances and I doubt he could have been charged with escape..
Posted on 2/18/15 at 4:42 pm to brmark70816
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I'm just saying, he didn't plan an escape. He had to get out of the bus or he would have died. The one guard basically left him to die and ran off, so he wasn't under any type of restraint or obligation to stay in that area. I guess he could have looked for an officer to turn himself into. But very special circumstances and I doubt he could have been charged with escape..
Getting off the bus that was on train tracks is not an escape, when he took off and agreed with that other black guy to go in different directions, hid and ran from the police and Federal Marshalls is when he escaped.
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But very special circumstances and I doubt he could have been charged with escape..
If he had stayed at the scene of the wreck, then no, he would not be charged with an escape. Maybe, maaayyybbbeee if he wonders off to find a hospital and turns himself in there, they would let it slide, but he ran there fore he escaped.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 4:46 pm
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