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re: The Flash Season One Thread
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:59 pm to Mr. Wayne
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:59 pm to Mr. Wayne
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I think I need to stay away from the comics. The show is great but the explinations of the comic have me at a loss.
No one can ever explain time travel, especially traveling to the past, because the theory alone from a scientific standpoint is one big paradox. It's best not to even try and figure it out.
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:17 pm to Bamatab
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I'm thinking that the Barry that went back in time to stop Thawne from killing him merged with child Barry. Kind of like when Barry went back in time in last night's episode, there was only him and not a second Barry.
OOOooooooohhhhh!!!! Very interesting! But then what happened to Future Barry's knowledge? From last night's episode he seemed to retain his memory of his own recent past.
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I think that Cisco said he was older than the Barry that was a kid at the time. So it could be current Barry or future Barry.
You're probably right. I may have read too much into that explanation.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 5:30 pm to Bard
So...How does Thawne have a computer capable of reading the future?
Posted on 3/19/15 at 9:02 am to VaBamaMan
One thing I didn't understand, why didn't barry grab and tie up mark after he electrocuted the captain? He could have done that in a fraction of a second and still raced captain to the hospital
Posted on 3/19/15 at 9:29 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:he lost his treadmill
Another result of the battle is Wells losing the superspeed needed to travel back to his own time
Posted on 3/19/15 at 9:40 am to LSUROCKS52
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One thing I didn't understand, why didn't barry grab and tie up mark after he electrocuted the captain? He could have done that in a fraction of a second and still raced captain to the hospital
The same reason that he doesn't just grab every villain at superspeed. Every battle would end in a second. It's the nature of dealing with with all-powerful heroes like Flash, Pietro, Superman, Hulk, Firestorm, etc. They get dumbed down depending on the level of strength of the villain.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 9:41 am to Fewer Kilometers
And I think that the consensus on Barry's DNA from his mom's crime scene was that it was from Barry "as an adult". I don't think that they specified it any narrower than that.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 9:56 am to Fewer Kilometers
Haha, hadn't even thought about that. I just thought, man he had an opening and he just ignored it.
Why would thawne want to kill barry? Wouldn't that destroy the speed force that he obviously uses? did he not think of the repercussions?
Why would thawne want to kill barry? Wouldn't that destroy the speed force that he obviously uses? did he not think of the repercussions?
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:06 am to Fewer Kilometers
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The same reason that he doesn't just grab every villain at superspeed. Every battle would end in a second. It's the nature of dealing with with all-powerful heroes like Flash, Pietro, Superman, Hulk, Firestorm, etc. They get dumbed down depending on the level of strength of the villain.
Yep, this. As much as I love the Flash, super speed really could be considered the Uberpower. IN theory, he's able to move and think so fast that he virtually stops time and can react to any situation before it develops. I love the way they showed this in the Quick Silver scene from Days of Future Past. THe joke is that the reason that Xavier, Magneto, and Wolverine didn't bring QS along is because that would have been the end of the movie.
So now that Flash in in the past, he "knows" some things he didn't the first time:
1. Iris loves him
2. Joe is going to get in some deep shite with the Weather Wizard
But thanks to the clever writers, he still won't know all about Dr. Wells/Thawne, and the murder of Cisco.
This is some great writing and has been a great show. I can't wait to see how he works on preventing the showdown with the Weather Wizard. Does he tell his friends that he's from the future and has lived this once already? What does Dr. Wells do with this knowledge? Does he change his behavior towards Iris?
One thing that's kind of a plot hole is that Reverse Flash/Wells/Thawne is WAY faster than Barry the first time they meet up (present day). He's currently performing super speed feats that seem to be faster than Barry. Yet we are told that he has lost the speed needed to time travel. That seems like a bit of a contradiction. Unless Barry's run to stop the tidal wave was just SO much faster than he's ever run before.
Still, awesome show and I'm convinced that if given the choice, I'd pick super speed as my super power.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:49 am to LSUROCKS52
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One thing I didn't understand, why didn't barry grab and tie up mark after he electrocuted the captain? He could have done that in a fraction of a second and still raced captain to the hospital
Or why didn't Joe take the weather wand with him when he went after the Wizard? Joe could walk around with it on and boom, weather proof vest. Or Barry could use it as the tsunami is forming and boom no more tsunami.
Wally wouldn't have dropped the ball like this. Just sayin..
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:05 am to TygerTyger
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One thing that's kind of a plot hole is that Reverse Flash/Wells/Thawne is WAY faster than Barry the first time they meet up (present day). He's currently performing super speed feats that seem to be faster than Barry. Yet we are told that he has lost the speed needed to time travel. That seems like a bit of a contradiction. Unless Barry's run to stop the tidal wave was just SO much faster than he's ever run before.
Pretty sure this is the case. After Barry's first encounter with the RF a few episodes back, Barry has been pushing himself/training to try and increase his speed. I guess it worked, and this is the first time he had enough motivation (to stop the tidal wave, and save Iris) to go that fast.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 3/19/15 at 12:15 pm to Bamatab
Here's a cool article that helped me (a non-comic reader) fill in some gaps:
The Flash: Time Travel Theories and Powers Explained
It also raises a cool point I didn't notice in the show about the possibility that we may be in an alternate universe now, or at least, the time travel has already had ripple-effect repercussions.
Check out the difference in these "before" and "after" time travel screen shots:
The Flash: Time Travel Theories and Powers Explained
It also raises a cool point I didn't notice in the show about the possibility that we may be in an alternate universe now, or at least, the time travel has already had ripple-effect repercussions.
Check out the difference in these "before" and "after" time travel screen shots:
Posted on 3/19/15 at 2:19 pm to TigerInBamaLand
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It also raises a cool point I didn't notice in the show about the possibility that we may be in an alternate universe now, or at least, the time travel has already had ripple-effect repercussions.
Wells talked earlier in the episode about how little we know about time travel, whether or not it just leads to alternate universes/timelines or if going back in time and changing things also changes the future.
For example, in the Paradox storyline, Barry goes back in time and saves his mom. That one little change results in a dramatically different present when he returns.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 3:13 pm to PsychTiger
duh freeze breath. 
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:12 pm to Tedock
Him saving his mom has devastating consequences.
Kal-el lands at Ft. Riley instead of the Kent Farm
Joe Chill kills Bruce Wayne in front of his parents. Thomas becomes Batman, Martha the Joker.
Diana seduces King Arthur, when Mera finds out and confronts her, she is killed, sparking an Amazon/Atlantis war
Kal-el lands at Ft. Riley instead of the Kent Farm
Joe Chill kills Bruce Wayne in front of his parents. Thomas becomes Batman, Martha the Joker.
Diana seduces King Arthur, when Mera finds out and confronts her, she is killed, sparking an Amazon/Atlantis war
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:16 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Him saving his mom has devastating consequences.
Kal-el lands at Ft. Riley instead of the Kent Farm
Joe Chill kills Bruce Wayne in front of his parents. Thomas becomes Batman, Martha the Joker.
Diana seduces King Arthur, when Mera finds out and confronts her, she is killed, sparking an Amazon/Atlantis war
Posted on 3/20/15 at 7:22 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:02 am to WPBTiger
If any of y'all haven't seen the Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox animated movie, do yourself a favor and watch it.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:01 pm to Bamatab
Well, it didn't take long for some Rouges to learn Flash's identity. 
I did like Barry convincing Snart not to kill people. It was bugging that they had him killing people, when that was going against his comic book nature.
I did like Barry convincing Snart not to kill people. It was bugging that they had him killing people, when that was going against his comic book nature.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:47 pm to Bamatab
It's weird because he started off not killing people until he got that gun.
This ep was a bit of a let down after last week but that was to be expected. At least Barry is on to Wells now and Sisco isn't dead.
This ep was a bit of a let down after last week but that was to be expected. At least Barry is on to Wells now and Sisco isn't dead.
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