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The documentary "Crumb"
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:38 am
It's a great documentary about R. Crumb.but very depressing. I actually knew his brother Max. Max was a sweet soul and an incredible artist. I met him through his former girlfriend, Veronica, who was keeping several of his drawings for him in her small house she was renting. Veronica is the woman in the painting Robert did who they both were talking about in the movie. I used to see Max on Market Street in downtown San Francisco sitting on the sidewalk meditating for hours with an 8 foot rolled up piece of cloth in his mouth that he claimed he used to clean out his intestines. He had a little bowl on the sidewalk on front of him where people could throw coins in. I don't think anyone but a few people knew he was Maxon Crumb the brother of R. Crumb. I think they thought he was just another crazy guy hanging out on Market Street. He was depressed after Veronica broke up with him and I would stop and talk to him whenever I met him sitting on the sidewalk on Market Street. I also talked with him when he came over to Veronica's small house to get some of his drawings. Now I realize how lucky I was to be visiting Veronica when Max came over. Veronica had an incredibly beautiful singing voice and I met her when she was singing on the sidewalk in a punk rock duo called, " Veronica & Pheno". They were actually very good and it was the first time I heard punk rock music. Here's a video of Max from the documentary.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 11:47 am
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:45 am to Dawglovertoo
Here's a very rare interview with R. Crumb.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:16 am to Dawglovertoo
Great movie.
Randomly saw this at a theater in Reno when I was 14.
Glad to see Max is still alive. I know the older brother, Charles I believe, passed away years back.
Randomly saw this at a theater in Reno when I was 14.
Glad to see Max is still alive. I know the older brother, Charles I believe, passed away years back.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:19 am to Raoul Stimulato
Charles committed suicide. They announced his death just before the credits ran in the documentary, "Crumb". I'm surprised you knew Charles because he rarely left his house. How did you meet him?
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 11:25 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:25 am to Dawglovertoo
Oh u may have misread. or i typed it poorly.
I knew of the fact that he passed away. That is all.
Yea, pretty sure he never left the house he shared w his mom.
I knew of the fact that he passed away. That is all.
Yea, pretty sure he never left the house he shared w his mom.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:27 am to Raoul Stimulato
It's my mistake. I read your post incorrectly.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:33 pm to Dawglovertoo
Great documentary.
The director, Terry Zwigoff, went on to direct Ghost World with Dan Clowes. (And the sophomore slump Clowes film, Art School Confidential.)
The director, Terry Zwigoff, went on to direct Ghost World with Dan Clowes. (And the sophomore slump Clowes film, Art School Confidential.)
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:38 pm to Dawglovertoo
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I met her when she was singing on the sidewalk in a punk rock duo called, " Veronica & Pheno". They were actually very good and it was the first time I heard punk rock music.
...sidewalk singing punk rock music? Um, ok. If you say so.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:48 pm to Dawglovertoo
An incredible story that just gives you the heebie jeebies. 
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:50 pm to Dawglovertoo
I scored the Criterion blu-ray for $18 a few years back.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:12 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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sidewalk singing punk rock music? Um, ok. If you say so.
Veronica & Pheno (Ralph was his real first name) were singing and playing Ralph's original punk rock songs and music.They both wore black leather motorcycle jackets, played guitars, sang and busked on Beach street near Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco during the summer tourist season. It definitely was an usual sight to see. I didn't realize how talented and ahead of his time Ralph was as a song writer and musician until later when the punk rock music scene blossomed. I remember one of Ralph's songs called, "Baby Grand Piano". I still have some cassette tapes of them singing and playing their guitars on Beach street.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:19 pm to Raoul Stimulato
Here's another rare interview with R. Crumb and Aline Kominsky.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:37 pm to Dawglovertoo
Here's a short clip of Charles from the documentary "Crumb".
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:43 pm to Dawglovertoo
I saw "Crumb" many years ago and he is certainly one strange guy. He dresses like a guy from the 40's, has some off the wall artwork with his drawings of women with "Rubenesque" figures of thick butts, thighs and big boobs.
His brother, Charles, was one very strange character that obviously had some mental issues he was dealing with-----thus the suicide.
It was an interesting documentary though.
His brother, Charles, was one very strange character that obviously had some mental issues he was dealing with-----thus the suicide.
It was an interesting documentary though.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 5:49 pm to gumbo2176
Listen to the interviews with R. Crumb I just posted and you can get more insight into why he is the way he is.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:59 am to Dawglovertoo
There was a push during the #metoo years to erase Crumb as the father of underground comics. His blatant racist and misogynist comics that he created to pull the scab off of society were seen by the younger generations as him indulging in his own personal bigotry.
But if you watch the most recent documentaries about the legends of alt/underground comics (Spiegelman, Friedman) there Crumb is, brought in to give the ultimate legitimacy to these artists.
Crumb's ultimate F.U. was him leaving the States behind and trading a sketchbook for a house in France.
But if you watch the most recent documentaries about the legends of alt/underground comics (Spiegelman, Friedman) there Crumb is, brought in to give the ultimate legitimacy to these artists.
Crumb's ultimate F.U. was him leaving the States behind and trading a sketchbook for a house in France.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:20 am to Dawglovertoo
From the suggested documentaries thread, here are my comic book related suggestions:
Art Spiegelman: Disaster is My Muse: American Masters documentary about the Pulitzer Prize winning creator of Maus and cocreator of Topps Wacky Packages and Garbage Pail Kids.
quote:And I'm adding this one, which is now avaliable for free on Tubi (PBS shows are notoriously hard fo find at times. Link to Art Spiegeman American Masters Documentary on Tubi.
My list of suggested comic book related documentaries:
Comic Book Confidential: A time capsule of comic history as of the late 80's, with interviews of now deceased masters and the indie artists who created underground comics.
Crumb: Award winning insight on Robert Crumb and his bizarre brothers. A deep dive in a self-proclaimed weirdo genius artist.
Dave Stevens: Drawn to Perfection: Deep dive into the perfectionist artist who created The Rocketeer and brought Bettie Page back into pop culture.
Mike Mignola: Drawing Monsters: A refreshing doc about a non-tortured artist who brought the tortured Hellboy to life. A well done documentary with no added fluff.
Selling Superman: An obsessed collector leaves his hoarder filled home full of comics to his wife and sons, the eldest brother sets out to sort and sell a massive collection that includes millions of dollars in comics, including Batman #1 and Superman #1. A lot of emotion as he deals with this massive gift from a neglectful father.
Drew Friedman: Vermeer of the Borscht Belt: Celebrity favorite Drew Friedman discusses his art, his obsession with old Jewish comedians, and his life as the son of a famous writer. His good friend Gilbert Godfried steals the show.
Art Spiegelman: Disaster is My Muse: American Masters documentary about the Pulitzer Prize winning creator of Maus and cocreator of Topps Wacky Packages and Garbage Pail Kids.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 1:03 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Thanks for your post. All of those documentaries look like they are worth watching.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 1:08 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I loved how pissed off feminists got after reading some of R. Crumb's comics.
It made my day!
It made my day!
Posted on 7/28/26 at 1:58 pm to Dawglovertoo
I also enjoyed American Splendor, about Harvey Pekar and of course featuring Crumb as a character.
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