re: The challenge: Spies, lies, allies

What is Josh, like 1-5 or so in eliminations now?


He's crying to be a champion one day, but dude has never even sniffed a final.

He was on John's podcast today and he actually seems like a likeable guy outside the show, but he's just a blubbering mess on the show.


I also don't know why the hell Kyle went to Saphire team again, when he says all the time that Devin is his best friend and Green is a good team.

John broke down how much of a snake CT is on the show and how every time he has some strategy/deal meeting with a cast member, it always ends up benefitting only him and fricking everyone else.

Josh said they were planning on playing the game straight up and they had no idea CT cut a deal with Tori and her team....and who came out on top?? CT and,it blew everyone else's game up.

Listening to John's strategy play as he looks at the season from 10,000 feet, is pretty interesting.

He called CT an "evil genius" and how he somehow convinced letting his team win and screwing Tori and emerald team.

There's a reason I want John and a lot of the old wiley, cutthroat vets back on the show to see how they play against CT again. John said there is no one else that can play the game CT plays. He didn't say it, but the reason is because no one wants to cross him and see him in an elimination. But if you let him slide to a final, he wins. So you have to pick your poison.

He was so dead on when he said "you can't leave an Assassin like that in the game so close to the final."

And is it only me, or does Tori get better looking as the show goes on every season?? Every year, she starts off meh, then she ends up being a stunner as the season ends.

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John broke down how much of a snake CT is on the show and how every time he has some strategy/deal meeting with a cast member, it always ends up benefitting only him and fricking everyone else.

Josh said they were planning on playing the game straight up and they had no idea CT cut a deal with Tori and her team....and who came out on top?? CT and,it blew everyone else's game up.

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But that shouldn’t be a knock against CT though. That’s just evidence of how smart he is and how well he plays the political game. All season when CT seems to be laying low, he’s actually slightly manipulating shite and making people do his bidding without them really knowing it. It also helps that he’s the most seasoned of seasoned vets. So newer people sort of go to him for advice in the game. And he’s good at giving them advice that will benefit him down the road. And that also endears him to them to the point where they want to work with him (see: Emy). So he not only has numbers aligned with the vets, he also has rookie numbers to an extent as well. Which allows him to play whatever side benefits him the most.

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John said there is no one else that can play the game CT plays. He didn't say it, but the reason is because no one wants to cross him and see him in an elimination. But if you let him slide to a final, he wins. So you have to pick your poison.

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But that’s the thing though…that is what makes CT so great. He is strong at pretty much all aspects of the game and has no weaknesses. He went from the roided up, psycho meathead to one of the legit smartest players ever in the game. He’s practiced puzzles and now has sort of mastered that aspect. He’s gotten himself back into great physical shape and has strong stamina for distance shite. His political game is top notch. Etc. Etc. Etc.

And those are all a testament to his challenge “training,” or whatever you want to call it. If you’d have told me years ago how much I’d like that dude nowadays, I’m not sure I would’ve believed you. But he’s won me over and is easily the best challenge cast member of all time (and most well-rounded).

Y'all see CT is getting cast for most dangerous game remake. We might not see too much more of him if he can be making big movie bucks

Also I think CT would have another win if big easy didn't die that one final.

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Y'all see CT is getting cast for most dangerous game remake.

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Had no idea, that's pretty huge for him. I'm sure that's another reason why he started getting in better shape again if he was getting feelers for tv or movies.

The film is by no means going to be a blockbuster, but the cast includes Bruce Dern, Tom Berenger, Judd Nelson, Caoser Van Dien and CT.

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I think CT would have another win if big easy didn't die that one final.

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Yep. CT probably would have won The Duel, too, if he hadn't been beaten by Brad on a technicality elimination loss. He smoked Brad around the track on that game and just dominated him completely, but he ripped the flag and got DQd.

As for the Rivals loss and Adam throwing the last elimination, I think you have to chalk that one up to savvy gameplay by John and Kenny. They out maneuvered him, fair or not, and got him out of the final, which is what John was trying to convey on the podcast I think. By no means can you let that dude into the final.

If CT has to run the final this year with Kyle and Elie, I think he's got a decent shot of winning. Kyle has a huge motor, but is an idiot. Elie is also probably the strongest girl left physically, but is also not too bright.

I also don't trust Nany and her Marlboro habits to make it to the end of a final quickly. Devin is also not the best physically.

It doesn't matter though, whomever gets saddled with Big T is going to lose.

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If CT has to run the final this year with Kyle and Elie, I think he's got a decent shot of winning. Kyle has a huge motor, but is an idiot. Elie is also probably the strongest girl left physically, but is also not too bright.

I also don't trust Nany and her Marlboro habits to make it to the end of a final quickly. Devin is also not the best physically.

It doesn't matter though, whomever gets saddled with Big T is going to lose.

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With the uneven number of players on each team at this point, I’m waiting for TJ to throw another twist before the finals by announcing that there are no more teams and everyone is on there own to run the final

It would make my day if right before the final, Kaycee and Tori faced off in something physical in the Lair and Tori sent her arse packing.

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John may be getting a little salty on CT with him closing the gap on the challenge wins.

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100%.

Lol at John calling out anyone for being a snake in the game


And Josh saying they were going to play “straight up”??? WTF does that mean? As long as everyone does what he and the BB alliance says it’s s”straight up” but if anyone plays for themselves it’s not

John is as big of a snake as anyone yes but I think he's trying to put CT on blast too.

I don't care, I love it. It's still the best rivalry in the history of the show. The seasons where it was basically John and his whole crew vs CT as a singular force were what made the Challenge what it is today.

I would've teamed up again if I were Ruby and sapphire to make sure one of their females goes to the pit.

Say Ruby gets the w. Vote Amanda and she choses nany. Surefire way to knock emerald down.