re: The Challenge Season 36: Double Agents (Premieres 12/9)

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Why do they give Josh so much airtime? He’s insufferable. I’m trying to remember when the last time there’s been a main character this bad

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Amanda was pretty bad.

Ashley has been pretty bad.

I don't think either of them are on Josh's level, though.

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I don't think Fessy plays a great game either, but what he did last night was 100% the right move for him IMO. It's literally the one challenge he may be unbeatable at outside of someone like CT who can just match him on brute strength.

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He asked Tori to send him in as soon as he was it was a hall brawl, just because it was Nelson shouldn't change that, and it didn't.

Tori put Josh on blast on her podcast.

According to her, Josh came to her off camera the day of that elimination and asked her not to put him in

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Which made his fake getting pumped up to go down routine hilarious

Dude is pathetic

How'd my girl Natalie doing this season? Is she still there?

I hate Josh as much as the next person but he really is perfect for the show. Irrational confidence man. Thinks he’s smarter than everyone. Will talk shite but will also cry and say he’s not mean or bad guy. He’s pretty much identical to a lot of great challenge females.

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This wasn't even a smart move long-term. This is his second season on the challenge and he had actually formed a pretty good alliance that would carry on through future season. But he thought it was a good idea to possibly piss off everyone and have no one trust him going forward nor protect him? He doesn't have Wes' ability to manipulate people. I think it's going to come back to burn him in the future.

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Yeah agreed, I mentioned earlier it’s been clear since Big Brother that he just has zero awareness of how to move strategically.

He was burned by people he thought were allies on that show, so I think ultimately he just wanted to take it into his own hands and get his skull because he was scared he might be getting played again by people that were just using him as their muscle.

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He had, at minimum, fifty pounds on Nelson and had to play really dirty to beat him.

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Eh I think that was exaggerated. I highly doubt that challenge lasted more than 10-15 seconds. They did the classic Challenge move of showing the same few moments from different angles over and over again in slow motion with dramatic music mixed in to make it look much closer than it was, although Nelson did use his speed well to get to the buzzer and make it close once they disengaged.

The second run was not even close (Nelson saying he gave up because he was just deflated because he though they were friends is lol worthy).


Body slamming is NOT dirty in that challenge imo. Not at all.


And are we just forgetting about Fess fighting CT to a draw on the truck challenge earlier in the episode?

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Nelson was on instagram live and talked about a lot of the stuff we didn't see on this episode

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Again, Nelson is obviously going to say that stuff after the fact, especially because hes pissed and doesn’t like him anymore. Him saying he was dirty because he kneeled on his hand that was already hurt is just sour grapes. Even if it was intentional by Fess, it easily could have been an accident as they were fricking wrestling for crying out loud, I still don’t see that as dirty really.

Putting dirt in his face might be low, not illegal, but again I don’t think that was necessarily a plan. You’re reaching and grabbing for anything trying to move your opponent backwards and if you happen to get a handful of dirt and then that gets thrown up into his face while you’re searching for something to latch onto I guess that happens.

Yeah TJ said no more dirty stuff but that’s probably because Nelson and his crew spent the break between runs whining about how Fessy was cheating blah blah blah because they knew he was going home and TJ was just throwing them a bone and giving more drama for the episode.

If there was actually illegal shite going on TJ would have stopped it mid challenge which he’s done before.

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you're crazy. For one, until Fessy backpacks a guy like Bananas, he will not be as prime CT was. And CT really didn't care for the political side of the challenge and really didn't care who he pissed off or made friends with. And the big difference between Fessy and CT is that CT wasn't scared of going into any elimination like Fessy is. Fessy bitched out big time in the first elimination. He literally only wanted to do hall brawl because he has an almost unfair advantage.

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Yeah I agree with all that.

CT was unhinged. Fess while huge and a great athlete, is a pretty laid back and docile guy.

He’ll never have that mental power of fear over others like CT did.


I think that was clear in the truck wrestle. Fess just doesn’t have that rabid dog mentality. On paper he should have been able to take CT physically at this stage in his life, but CT’s mental edge got him the tie.

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Turbo could have been the psychotic Turkish version of CT if they weren't scared he might legitimately kill someone for saying something he didn't understand but thought was an insult.

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Fessy is a big strong guy, but he's nowhere on the psychosis level of classic roid/coke CT or Turbo.

CT punched a gay kid in his sleep and nearly killed Adam. He also tried to fight him on their RW Paris season for no reason.

Landon and Rachel back in the day both said he should have been banned from the show forever. He was unsafe to be around, but production actually encouraged his lunacy, they thought.

He was also off the show entirely for like 2-3 years. When he cameoed on Cutthroat in Backpack elimination, he said he never thought he was getting a call back ever again, so he came in there guns blazing for that Elim.

Turbo it also seems is legit unisnurable and he probably will never be back.

Fessy is big dumb big brother reality show fake tough guy it feels like. I can never seen him going nuts like the old CT and Turbo.

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Finally going to get interesting.

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This.

It's a telling sign that i just watched the most recent episode last night after getting tired of watched Bama kick the shite out of OSU.

The season has been boring as hell with BB/Kam/Leroy/Corey running the house. Fessy did it right. If you are going heal, go full heal. Burn it all down.

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MTV has only cracked down on fighting the last few years.

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fighting has always gotten you kicked off the show. What they cracked down on was drugs and alcohol more recently

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CT punched a gay kid in his sleep and nearly killed Adam.

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I watched some old clips a few days ago. I forgot just how psychotic old school CT was. Like roided out, long hair CT when he punched Adam on that Challenge season. He was insane and appeared to clearly be coked out of his mind. I’ll never understand Diem’s infatuation with him.

I watched a clip of best Challenge fights too. Man I love that Brad/Darrell fight. Darrell wanted nothing to do with that because he knew he would roll Brad, but he kept pushing and pushing until Darrell shut him the frick up. And then got mad at him for making him do it.