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re: The Cabin in the Woods. TulaneLSU's 2011-12 movie review thread
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:28 pm to TulaneLSU
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:28 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:
show how you believe I do not distinguish between them
because you constantly moralize based on a rigid religious dogma no matter what the circumstance. It seems like every one of your reviews starts out with 500 words on how a children's movie or a rom-com is a symbol of the sermon on the mount or whatever bliblical hokum has your attention that day.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:48 pm to Leauxgan
Making observations on human nature and human history is not moralizing. I believe bringing such observations into a review, opening a review with a theme of such and tying it into the theme of the movie, adds to the review as it gives added substance to it. When one reads my restaurant reviews on the Food Board they do not merely talk about the food. They also discuss the cultural background of the food and the geographic significance, the Eretz Orleans, as I will now call it. To discuss just the food or just the plot of a movie is, IMO, boring. It leaves something totally unfit, totally lacking, totally void of what I want to read.
If adding thought, pertinent thought, to a movie review is bad, then paint me bad. I am not going to give you film jargon as some reviewers in national publications do. They do so because their thought is empty and they want to impress with words foreign to others, words specific to their guild. Even on The Arts Board, you see a less professional jargon arising, with repeated use of words like pretentious, flat, deconstruct, noir, arthouse, flawed masterpiece, transcendant, I get it, smug, contextualized, well, I'll stop there. The point is, if I were writing reviews that didn't make people think or didn't have substance in them, I wouldn't have people begging on the Help Board for me to be banned. Nor would some of the wiser members of the boards thank me for opening up certain movies to them, allowing them to see it in a new light.
There is much truth to the statement that every story is a sermon. I believe it because every time we put something in a narrative, we express some worldview. We moralize in some way or another, even if we do our best not to moralize. Finding connections in a movie between its message and the message of some of the great thinkers of history is not a bad thing, and it should not be seen as such, unless you are proudly a cultured despiser of culture.
If adding thought, pertinent thought, to a movie review is bad, then paint me bad. I am not going to give you film jargon as some reviewers in national publications do. They do so because their thought is empty and they want to impress with words foreign to others, words specific to their guild. Even on The Arts Board, you see a less professional jargon arising, with repeated use of words like pretentious, flat, deconstruct, noir, arthouse, flawed masterpiece, transcendant, I get it, smug, contextualized, well, I'll stop there. The point is, if I were writing reviews that didn't make people think or didn't have substance in them, I wouldn't have people begging on the Help Board for me to be banned. Nor would some of the wiser members of the boards thank me for opening up certain movies to them, allowing them to see it in a new light.
There is much truth to the statement that every story is a sermon. I believe it because every time we put something in a narrative, we express some worldview. We moralize in some way or another, even if we do our best not to moralize. Finding connections in a movie between its message and the message of some of the great thinkers of history is not a bad thing, and it should not be seen as such, unless you are proudly a cultured despiser of culture.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 3:58 pm to TulaneLSU
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they want to impress with words foreign to others
FYI, I wasn't begging, just merely bringing your actions to light encase they were going unnoticed.
ETA: This is one of the downsides of the internet, it gives asinine people like you a voice.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:45 pm to iAmBatman
Why would anyone put as much effort into trolling as TulaneLSU does? Either he really is uber-religious ie insane or he is a pathetic slob with absolutely nothing better to do.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 7:04 pm to Superior Pariah
How is he "trolling"? Why are YOU in this thread?
I think his expressed religious views, sincere or not, are comical poppycock, but, hey, so are many other views on this website. He's not as good at composition and expression as he thinks he is (or purports to be), but, hey, that's true for a lot of other posters as well.
I find his reviews entertaining. Why would you begrudge him a hobby?
Keep 'em coming, TulaneLSU. Ignore the haters.
I think his expressed religious views, sincere or not, are comical poppycock, but, hey, so are many other views on this website. He's not as good at composition and expression as he thinks he is (or purports to be), but, hey, that's true for a lot of other posters as well.
I find his reviews entertaining. Why would you begrudge him a hobby?
Keep 'em coming, TulaneLSU. Ignore the haters.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:30 pm to TulaneLSU
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Politics isn't business. Politics is personal and often paphian. The Donations of Alexandria was the culmination of a grudge between Mark Antony and Octavia. The subsequent battle a testament to Antony's love for Cleopatra. Iraq II was fought, at least in part, for family vengeance. Lilliput and Blefuscu are excellent examples of the pettiness and personal nature of political warfare. Political espionage is just as personal in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
The movie does its best to be a pretentious, transcendent arthouse masterpiece. But the film is easily deconstructed, and behind it we find a flawed, smug, contextualized, and flat attempt to be a Euro spy film noir. I get it, as much as a bald, fatuous, angry, and over-the-hill votary to himself who believes that by condescending praise his intelligence is made superior to his superior. The film, as much as I enjoy independent films, is not good. Oldman is decent enough, playing the demure introvert, saving his words for daring and correct conclusions character to whom he is no stranger. His character is the only character that has any depth and his performance the only that isn't awful. Tom Hardy, however, has come on strong of late, and I look forward to following his career.
I have not read the book, nor do I plan to because this film has nothing important to add. The film is hard to follow because there are too many characters who play essential roles. There are too many names to keep track of. Even for a person of my intelligence, I found it to be an overload of information. If you miss any of it, you miss the picture. Keeping track of the plot and characters is hard enough, and I can only imagine the director did this to the audience because he hoped that we would be so focused on the instruments in the film to miss the film itself. I assume we're supposed to learn about each character, to play a game of Clue: Who is the mole? By the middle of the movie, however, I didn't care. Why? Because no character outside of Oldman's had any depth. They were all simply there. And just as the recent Conan film jumped from scene to scene as fast as LSU fans turned on Les Miles, so too does Tinker Sailor Soldier Spy jump from character to character. The result is an apathy for all of the characters. I didn't care who died. I didn't care who was a traitor and why. I didn't care.
In the climatic scene, where the mole gives his reasons for treachery, I did not care. The climax for me was entering the film and it was a steady descent from there. And thank the heavens I did not care because as we await his reasons, expecting a shocking sockdolager, we get the reasons of a college-aged flibbertigibbet. If any critic rates the film highly, it's because of prejudices because the film is atrocious. 2/10
The movie does its best to be a pretentious, transcendent arthouse masterpiece. But the film is easily deconstructed, and behind it we find a flawed, smug, contextualized, and flat attempt to be a Euro spy film noir. I get it, as much as a bald, fatuous, angry, and over-the-hill votary to himself who believes that by condescending praise his intelligence is made superior to his superior. The film, as much as I enjoy independent films, is not good. Oldman is decent enough, playing the demure introvert, saving his words for daring and correct conclusions character to whom he is no stranger. His character is the only character that has any depth and his performance the only that isn't awful. Tom Hardy, however, has come on strong of late, and I look forward to following his career.
I have not read the book, nor do I plan to because this film has nothing important to add. The film is hard to follow because there are too many characters who play essential roles. There are too many names to keep track of. Even for a person of my intelligence, I found it to be an overload of information. If you miss any of it, you miss the picture. Keeping track of the plot and characters is hard enough, and I can only imagine the director did this to the audience because he hoped that we would be so focused on the instruments in the film to miss the film itself. I assume we're supposed to learn about each character, to play a game of Clue: Who is the mole? By the middle of the movie, however, I didn't care. Why? Because no character outside of Oldman's had any depth. They were all simply there. And just as the recent Conan film jumped from scene to scene as fast as LSU fans turned on Les Miles, so too does Tinker Sailor Soldier Spy jump from character to character. The result is an apathy for all of the characters. I didn't care who died. I didn't care who was a traitor and why. I didn't care.
In the climatic scene, where the mole gives his reasons for treachery, I did not care. The climax for me was entering the film and it was a steady descent from there. And thank the heavens I did not care because as we await his reasons, expecting a shocking sockdolager, we get the reasons of a college-aged flibbertigibbet. If any critic rates the film highly, it's because of prejudices because the film is atrocious. 2/10
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:39 pm to TulaneLSU
The movie is okay...and sometimes confusing if you don't know the story (like I didn't) but it's hardly atrocious.
2/10?
- didn't you give that Justin Beiber sing-song an 8/10?
2/10?
- didn't you give that Justin Beiber sing-song an 8/10?
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:40 pm to Zamoro10
A well deserved 6/10. And until you see it, you should withhold judgment.
I should probably qualify what I mean by atrocious. Considering the potential of this film, the final product was atrocious.
I should probably qualify what I mean by atrocious. Considering the potential of this film, the final product was atrocious.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:44 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:what a joke.
A well deserved 6/10. And until you see it, you should withhold judgment.
I should probably qualify what I mean by atrocious. Considering the potential of this film, the final product was atrocious.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:46 pm to TulaneLSU
Another awful, self-impressed review.
Pray tell, how does it try and do that? What are the qualifications for a TAM?
And if you had trouble keeping up with the movie, maybe you're simply not as observant as you think. Maybe if you keep stuffing your reviews with five dollar adjectives and literary allusions you can convince yourself of some higher worth.
quote:
The movie does its best to be a pretentious, transcendent arthouse masterpiece
Pray tell, how does it try and do that? What are the qualifications for a TAM?
And if you had trouble keeping up with the movie, maybe you're simply not as observant as you think. Maybe if you keep stuffing your reviews with five dollar adjectives and literary allusions you can convince yourself of some higher worth.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:49 pm to Leauxgan
As much as I love you for your role in bringing true love into my life, I find your inability to see an allusion to something so recent and close in internet space a bit bewildering.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:54 pm to Leauxgan
I'd be surprised if he has seen anything close to a "transcendant arthouse masterpiece" in his lifetime.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 2:57 pm to TulaneLSU
Mixing Antony and Cleopatra, the Iraqi war, and Gullivers Travels all in a row? Mixed metaphor/allusion is a pretty evident no-no. Maybe it would have been okay if you made Cold War references, not allusions protracted between centuries of one another. Instead it comes off as a parading of your own self amused knowledge, and adds little to nothing to the organization of your review.
Seldom are your claims backed up (ie here, the art house claims). Your organization is consistently terrible.
God is speaking through me, by the way. Pay attention
Seldom are your claims backed up (ie here, the art house claims). Your organization is consistently terrible.
God is speaking through me, by the way. Pay attention
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 3:00 pm to Leauxgan
Must I really do this to you, my dear Leauxgan? With the line that grabbed your attention, I was merely mocking myself, based on a message I wrote in this thread on this very page, a message addressed to you. I thought the line would get your attention and amuse you. But it successfully accomplished only one of my hopes; and instead of both, it only drew your ire. :sadface:
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/13/12 at 3:06 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:
There are too many names to keep track of. Even for a person of my intelligence, I found it to be an overload of information.
I guess obviously then there's no hope for the rest of us to understand it.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 3:58 pm to Superior Pariah
quote:
Why would anyone put as much effort into trolling as TulaneLSU does? Either he really is uber-religious ie insane or he is a pathetic slob with absolutely nothing better to do.
I do applaud him for keeping it in one thread.
Dan should have taken note.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:06 pm to Freauxzen
Damn...Freaux's alive. I thought you retired.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 4:17 pm to DanglingFury
quote:
Damn...Freaux's alive. I thought you retired.
I even saw a Kafka post here the other day.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 5:45 pm to DanglingFury
quote:
Damn...Freaux's alive. I thought you retired.
Just a busy time of year. I am still alive. Actually, I was riling people up in the sci fi thread if you missed that, haha.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 3:43 pm to Freauxzen
The Artist Several weeks ago Hugo did not initially impress me. But impressions change, and I not long ago had a tete-a-tete within the cozy confines of my own mind. The mind of a genius is an amazing thing: able to entertain itself when needed; able to bowdlerize in order to grow a more encompassing, generous opinion of the world. What brought the change of heart? Oddly enough, a reading of a little know piece by von Goethe entitled Clavigo. It's a marvelous work, which coincidentally introduced me to Caron de Beau Marchais, the watchmaker and tutor to Louis XV's children. As a result, through the marvels of Google scholar, I began reading some of his works and thought, and in it, I found this gem: "It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them."
Was he speaking to The Arts Board specifically or to the masses of critics who have flocked to The Artist calling it this year's best? Don't get me wrong: The Artist is a good movie. It's creative, well written, well acted, and has a positive message. But best of the year when you have others like The Tree of Life, Sarah's Key, and Midnight in Paris? I like a perfectly fried shrimp at Harbor Seafood, but by no means am I going to claim it's the best meal in New Orleans.
Who could be leading such a campaign? Perhaps it the people who see through the wafer-thin existential snoozefest, The Descendants, a movie that tries to be much smarter than it really is. About Schmidt was Alexander Payne's best film, but Payne is anything but the deep philosopher that he so effortfully tries to be. Perhaps it is the old guard of Hollywood, a little upset that other films set in the golden age of film, whatever that means, a film like Hugo, received little fanfare. So now these geriatrics truckle at the feet of a foreign attempt to pay homage to them.
The Artist works on all levels it attempts to reach. It shows a zero sum game of fame. We see how pride destroys. We feel heartache and empathy. We may even have a moment of aletheia when we see a love that is unearned and undeserved. But the artists behind this film aren't very interested in reaching very far. This is the sort of movie made to please many people, but I will guarantee that most people who approbate today with "I love this movie!" will moderate in ten years and say little more than, "I liked that movie." 7/10
Was he speaking to The Arts Board specifically or to the masses of critics who have flocked to The Artist calling it this year's best? Don't get me wrong: The Artist is a good movie. It's creative, well written, well acted, and has a positive message. But best of the year when you have others like The Tree of Life, Sarah's Key, and Midnight in Paris? I like a perfectly fried shrimp at Harbor Seafood, but by no means am I going to claim it's the best meal in New Orleans.
Who could be leading such a campaign? Perhaps it the people who see through the wafer-thin existential snoozefest, The Descendants, a movie that tries to be much smarter than it really is. About Schmidt was Alexander Payne's best film, but Payne is anything but the deep philosopher that he so effortfully tries to be. Perhaps it is the old guard of Hollywood, a little upset that other films set in the golden age of film, whatever that means, a film like Hugo, received little fanfare. So now these geriatrics truckle at the feet of a foreign attempt to pay homage to them.
The Artist works on all levels it attempts to reach. It shows a zero sum game of fame. We see how pride destroys. We feel heartache and empathy. We may even have a moment of aletheia when we see a love that is unearned and undeserved. But the artists behind this film aren't very interested in reaching very far. This is the sort of movie made to please many people, but I will guarantee that most people who approbate today with "I love this movie!" will moderate in ten years and say little more than, "I liked that movie." 7/10
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