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re: Survior Season 35 Thread Heros vs Healers vs Hustlers

Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:30 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:30 am to
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Not a smart move giving the shell to Mike


One of the dumber moves I've seen on Survivor in some time. Mike throwing the shell into the fire was awesome.

Never tell people that you have an idol. Ben showed why that is important.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:11 am to
I really thought when Lauren gave Mike the shell that was half of her idol, that it was a decoy. I didn't think she'd be dumb enough to actually give away half the idol to someone she knows she can't trust and doesn't trust her. That was an all-time dumb move. She was right in her assumption that she had the numbers against Ben and she didn't need to use her advantage, but still, that was really dumb.

Ben is gone as soon as he loses a challenge, and he honestly hasn't looked very good in the challenges.

I think Ashley is going to end up winning now.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:39 am to
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I really thought when Lauren gave Mike the shell that was half of her idol, that it was a decoy.


I thought of this too and really had no idea how that vote was gonna go. That tribal is why I love this show...it goes from fairly boring 4x3 to explosive tribal with all secrets on the table except one. The biggest player uses his secret idol to stay alive. Mike throwing the idol in the fire was awesome and Lauren giving it to him was an all time dumb move. I could see Ben going on an immunity streak or really any of those left winning this thing depending on the final 3
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:42 am to
Mike has kind of emerged as someone having a good chance to win. He's not really on anyone's radar to vote out. If he can win an immunity, or orchestrate an eviction, to bolster his resume, he could sneak out a win.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:50 am to
I think Mike loses in the final 3 to Ashley and Ben for sure... he probably loses to Devin since he seems to have no enemies other than now Ben and maybe loses to Chrissy, although I think Mike beats her due to likability. I am almost certain he beats Ryan, who has really faded into the background since the merge.

If Mike can convince Ryan and Chrissy to go with him and that ends up the final 3, he's got a shot.

I think Lauren and Ben tried the alliance coup one vote too early personally.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:00 am to
I don't see why they'd even try to get rid of Ben at this eviction which would put you at 3 vs 3 at the next vote (even though dummy had an extra vote).
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:04 am to
Yeah, I thought it was dumb last week when there was talk about blindsiding him, and still dumb this week when you had a solid 4, knew that your group controlled two immunity idols, and had an advantage. It was the 'haves' vs. the 'have nots' and somehow they completely botched it.


Another thing that seemed odd, when they were talking about voting Ben out, why didn't Devin say anything about him having a real immunity idol? Ben showed it to Devin when comparing it to the fake one he made. I guess Devin just didn't want to say anything and hopefully blindside Ben without him even using it? Then that blew up at tribal, and he still didn't say anything.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:35 pm to
I wondered that too especially since he was the one orchestrating everyone voting for Ben at the end.

For what its worth Devon is only person left in the final 6 with a shot at a perfect game.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:40 pm to
If Devon kept that to himself knowing that it would force Ben to play his idol and consequently eliminate Lauren (also a big threat at the end) with her advantage, all while keeping the target off of his back, then he's playing next level.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7939 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:14 pm to
Ben wins immunity next week its going to be crazy again. Devon/ Ashley vs. Crissy/ Ryan; where does mike and Ben go. I think Ben leans Crissy/ Ryan but Mike leans Devon/ Ashley is my take. Mike has shown no willingness to work with Crissy and Ryan that I recall.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
21785 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:39 pm to
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For what its worth Devon is only person left in the final 6 with a shot at a perfect game.



The one big mistake I think he made was cutting ties with Ryan so openly.

After they flipped, Ryan came up to him basically hat in hand and all he had to say was look I know you told Ben about the idol so I just trusted Ben for telling me more at the moment, but I do still think we could work together again, you just have to show me I can trust you again.

Ryan would have absolutely voted however Devon told him to going forward. But instead Devon was just like yeah man I’ve got my new group, we’re done.

Even if he planned on just using him as a number it still would have been better than openly saying they are basically enemies at that point.

Ryan didn’t really even betray him or anything. Yeah he told Ben about the idol even though he said he was only going to tell Devon. But that didn’t really hurt Devon. Just maybe needed to reevaluate them as a final 2, not just say frick off you’re going home.


If he had played that better, he would still have the possibility of bringing Ryan in for the next tribal even if it meant Ryan voting Krissy out because at that point Devon could have told him he protected him at all the earlier tribals, even though Ryan was never really on anyone’s radar. He wouldn’t have known that.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:47 pm to
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If he had played that better, he would still have the possibility of bringing Ryan in for the next tribal even if it meant Ryan voting Krissy out because at that point Devon could have told him he protected him at all the earlier tribals, even though Ryan was never really on anyone’s radar. He wouldn’t have known that.


It's not too late for this to happen. At this point I think Ryan is the one person everyone else wants to be in the final 3 alongside. He's been in the dark and out the outside for a few weeks now, I don't see him having much chance at convincing a jury to vote for him when he's been out of control for that long.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17289 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:02 pm to
So long Ashley. I am loving the chaos at tribal council! Ben has become my favorite player. But he’s made some enemies along the way. Some are going to perceive him arrogant, which will hurt him if he makes the final 3. I think Chrissy needs to go next, but is anyone smart enough to get her out?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65914 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:51 am to
is Ben getting what you guys call a "winner's edit"?

I like Chrissy she has a pretty rocking bod for 46. And she's played a pretty good game. although her personal dislike for Ben might ruin her.

Devon seems a lot smarter than i think the others give him credit for.

ryan is just kind of coasting on Chrissy's coat tails

Mike is such a weasel, i don't see how anyone votes for him to win.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15425 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:21 am to
If someone is smart enough to get Mike and Ryan to go final 3 they should have a 9-0 win
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:24 am to
Ben and Chrissy both have been getting a winner's edit the past few weeks. It's really down to those two on who wins, and Chrissy right now has more allies. Though I could see Devin sneaking one out because he played a pretty good social game, other than backstabbing Ashley.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:43 am to
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and Chrissy right now has more allies.


I'd want to vote Chrissy out as soon as possible if I were there. She has a really good chance of winning if she makes it to the final tribal.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:32 am to
quote:

is Ben getting what you guys call a "winner's edit"?



I think Ben/Devon/Chrissy have at times seemed like winners but they also have been made to seem cocky and arrogant and brought back down to Earth. Ryan too
Posted by Chuckd
Louisiana
Member since May 2013
797 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:35 am to
Why would Ben tell everyone before they vote that he has an idol? To me, if they all vote for him and then he plays the idol, then he essentially gets to decide who goes home.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65914 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:39 am to
seems like he let devon goad him into first, showing the idol and then playing it.
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