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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

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Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:34 pm to
I know :)
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:39 pm to
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Pretty much the coolest visual the entire movie was Snoke’s destroyed ship.


Then why didn't they just plan to do that in the first place if it was an option? I didn't know you could kamikazi at warp speed into an object, to me I thought the fabric of space was bent to allow for such travel. I mean, if it were possible to just warp speed into something and destroy it wouldn't that be a tactic seen more often with the weaponry in the Star Wars universe?

Maybe I'm taking it too far, but the suspension of disbelief was broken in this film, and to me that made it worse than the prequels. frick star wars.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:41 pm to
I was thinking the same thing. Just warp transports into warships.
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Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:43 pm to
That scene only exists to give the insufferable purple haired spinster Antifa wannabe a way to sacrifice herself for those she loved(lesbo Leia)
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:44 pm to
Y'all are insufferable.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:53 pm to
Yeah also I thought that that's why you never hit anything in warp speed because you were basically phasing through space. If your just an object go8ng really fast why weren't there more accidents in warp speed??
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:56 pm to
Yeah why has the empire bothered with all these Death Stars when they could have just built really big ships and warped them into any planet they wanted to?
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:02 pm to
Exactly. Star destroyers are 12 miles long. A 12 mike projectile hurtling faster than the speed of light into a planet would destroy the planet.

No need for Death Stars

So stupid. So so so stupid
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:02 pm to
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Pretty much the coolest visual the entire movie was Snoke’s destroyed ship.


Then why didn't they just plan to do that in the first place if it was an option?
In watching, I thought back to the first semi-big ship that ran out of gas (medical frigate?) and thought the same thing. I mean, the captain stayed on board and died anyway, might as well go out a hero instead of being shot down as you fall into range.
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I didn't know you could kamikazi at warp speed into an object, to me I thought the fabric of space was bent to allow for such travel.
Han told Luke that the calculations had to be precise, or they could run into a star or something. So while there are times it seems to be wormhole tech, it was established in the first movie, before the first jump, that you stayed in the physical universe.
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if it were possible to just warp speed into something and destroy it wouldn't that be a tactic seen more often with the weaponry in the Star Wars universe?

You would think so. Given the devastation, you would think a ship the size of the Falcon could pretty significantly damage a Star Destroyer. Hell, they fit X-Wings with the hyperdrive engines... and you certainly would have the tech available from the prequels at hand. A ship carrying a squadron of unmanned missiles (in other words, droid fighters with hyperdrive engines, programmed to kamikaze like that) would be a fleet-buster. If shields would work... well, then maybe the First Order should have raised them.

Did it take out just Snoke's ship? From the image we got, it looked like it took most of the First Order's fleet.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:18 pm to
And why not do it to the death star? This movie pretty much created it's own version of the eagles. Just about every problem that has occurred In the star wars universe could be solved by warping into a ship or death star. In ep. 6 why not just warp into the ship they know that the emperor and vader were on. Jesus. The directing, writing and plot in this movie just looks worse and worse the more I think about it. I actually felt happy as soon as I walked out of the theater until I started to think about all the things that make me say what?!
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:27 pm to
Bought the Star Wars Rolling Stones magazine from Barnes and Noble. The cashier asked if I liked the movie and I said I was disappointed by it. She agreed. I said the humor was off and her eyes lit up in agreement.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:39 pm to
My godson (age 6) loves it. I had to fake enthusiasm when talking to him about it.

I hope one day when he's older we can have a real discussion about why it is in fact...terrible.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:41 pm to
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Exactly. Star destroyers are 12 miles long. A 12 mike projectile hurtling faster than the speed of light into a planet would destroy the planet.

No need for Death Stars

So stupid. So so so stupid
I would imagine building one weapon to destroy planets is much cheaper than building 100's of projectiles that can fly at light speed into planets.
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:42 pm to
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I would imagine building one weapon to destroy planets is much cheaper than building 100's of projectiles that can fly at light speed into planets.



The millenium falcon was a piece of shite and it could warp at light speed.
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Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:44 pm to
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The millenial falcon was a piece of shite


Shut your fricking mouth! You just shut it. Right now the only sacred thing left in the Star Wars universe is that majestic vessel.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:44 pm to
Hopefully J.J. continues his fan service and has Lando be one of the allies that comes to the Resistance's rescue. I read the Last Jedi Crossroads book and apparently Snoke's ship is so big that it has 10 docking stations for regular Star Destroyers. I don't feel the film properly displayed that size to the audience.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:44 pm to
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The millenium falcon was a piece of shite and it could warp at light speed.

That's much smaller than a 12 mile long destroyer.
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:44 pm to
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Shut your fricking mouth! You just shut it. Right now the only sacred thing left in the Star Wars universe is that majestic vessel.



I can't even spell the fricking thing right
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:47 pm to
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That's much smaller than a 12 mile long destroyer.



Valid point for sure. You know if it weren't for Pearl Harbor we wouldn't even be having these discussions.

A true testament to Ben Afleck's range as an actor if you ask me.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:03 pm to
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Exactly. Star destroyers are 12 miles long. A 12 mike projectile hurtling faster than the speed of light into a planet would destroy the planet.

No need for Death Stars

So stupid. So so so stupid
I would imagine building one weapon to destroy planets is much cheaper than building 100's of projectiles that can fly at light speed into planets.

Did you think this through? The Death Star is way more than 100 Star Destroyers in mass, so the resources involved are IMMENSE. And you don't have to build entire ships, just gather up asteroids and mount the correct size hyperdrive and a single droid to control it. A big rock at lightspeed would do the trick.

added- the concept of fuel is introduced in this movie... any guess what the Death Star's MPG was? Probably not that good, as in "clean out an entire planet's resources to make one trip" type of guzzling.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 8:05 pm
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