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Jack Ruby
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Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
I didnt think any entity could ever approach Siskel and Ebert in terms of influencing a movie audience to go see ambient or not, but I think RT is getting close.
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Tactical1
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
I remember Ebert being a little bit easier on mainstream films not to mention he lived longer so I would say Roger.

EDIT: I thought this was Siskel versus Ebert. Rotten Tomatoes is much more influential than Siskel/Ebert.
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RollTide1987
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Rotten Tomatoes is a website that posts individual critic reviews. Siskel and Ebert were two of the most influential critics in film history. I remember many TV spots for movies that were coming out in the 90s with the narrator exclaiming: "Siskel and Ebert give it two thumbs up!"

I can't recall any other critics being name dropped during that particular decade. It happens more often now but it was definitely a novelty 20-25 years ago.

They did get it wrong sometimes though. Just watch their review of The Silence of the Lambs if you want proof of that.


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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Kids used to say...we all said...to influence our parents...

Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs up!

It was a way to get taken to the movies as a kid. I mean they were the only ones...and most people didn't read newspapers that had movie criticism or reviews.

They were demi-gods...and considered authoritative.

Any shitehead can post and get picked up by RT...it's blogs, newspapers, online only, and three chicks in a van down by the river posting from a walkie-talkie.


tigerfan84
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
I prefer IMDb ratings


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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
RT by far. Not everyone watched S&E, and even if they did they had to tune in at specific times or live in Chicago. Not to mention how much S&E argued.

RT anyone can find and has a very mass consensus. It's far more influential.


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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Siskel and Ebert. By far.

Rotten Tomatoes is a collection of critics but also shares the stage with other similar sites like Metacritic, IMDB, etc. There's a solid chance that someone still goes and sees a movie despite their recommendations.

If you were of an age to be influenced by movie reviews, from the mid 80s to early 00s, you likely paid attention to a Siskel and Ebert review. Or were regularly watching At the Movies. And they were very likely influencing your movie going experience. And that's just two guys.


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athenslife101
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
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Any shitehead can post and get picked up by RT...it's blogs, newspapers, online only, and three chicks in a van down by the river posting from a walkie-talkie.




That's not true at all? Why you making shite up?


Scoob
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Siskel and Ebert, by a large margin. They were on TV before the internet was an option, and we only had basically 13 channels to choose from on cable (really, 11 channels- 01 never existed, and 02 was always some shopping channel).
We used to wait on their show for recommendations, whether a big-budget movie was worth seeing or not, and also for hidden gems to go see.

Honestly, whenever I look at RT, I just try to scan for reviews from big media outlets, to see if I can get a solid read on a film.

Oh, and to the guy who said he couldn't remember other reviewers being cited by studios- Rex Reed was another big name. If he liked your film, that was going to be in a press release.


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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
I thought the van down by the river would give away the hyperbole.

But RT is a bunch of blog writers and self promoting wannabees on self created websites.


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Scoob
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
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RT by far. Not everyone watched S&E, and even if they did they had to tune in at specific times or live in Chicago.
No...

RT has never made me want to watch a movie I have never heard of.

In comparison, in the early 80's there was an artsy movie, My Dinner with Andre, that for whatever reason S&E reviewed. It was a movie consisting of ... two guys talking about life over dinner.
They gave the film a good review, and disussed the merits of it.
At the time, I was still a high school kid, and my ideas of good movies were action films and risque comedies. Nevertheless, I ended up wanting to see that film.

Again, there is no way a format like RT would make me want to go see it... and RT (and IMDB, etc) has never convinced my son to want to see something outside his wheelhouse.
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RT anyone can find and has a very mass consensus. It's far more influential.

That's the point, it's a mass consensus... and you only go to confirm on a film you want to see, or might go see. You don't go there to find out about things you otherwise never would see.


TigerattheU
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Did anyone else get their movie reviews from the Friday Fun section in the Baton Rouge Advocate? I remember those star ratings carrying a lot of weight at my house.


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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
I tend to agree. I only check RT to make sure the movie isn't universally considered shitty by everyone. I may even see what's getting a really high score.

I figure anything anything in the middle is personal preference.


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airfernando
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
99% of people never watched Siskel and Ebert. They weren't as big as you think. Nobody cared what they thought.


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biglego
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
I read the Times Picayune movie reviews religiously. I also watch S & E sometimes. I rarely check RT.



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PowerTool
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
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Not everyone watched S&E, and even if they did they had to tune in at specific times or live in Chicago.


That's crazy talk. They were syndicated nationally, sometimes being aired more than once a week. They were frequent guests on other national talk shows. Movie commercials cited them. Other reviews cited them. And the broadcast medium was much smaller.

RT is big, but it's an aggregate score. It doesn't compare to the power two guys in Chicago had to make a small movie big in the pre-internet, pre-Netflix, pre-on demand days.

Beyond that, Ebert was respected as a film historian who helped develop a Hollywood film cannon. People today still watch certain low-budget movies because this one guy said they were worth watching. No comparison to the scoring systems of online aggregators.


OliverQueen81
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Siskel and every for sure.


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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Siskel hated : Silence of the Lambs, The Burbs, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Aliens, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Reservoir Dogs, Chinatown, Unforgiven,.
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GoldenGuy
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re: Spinoff: Who was/is more Powerful at Influencing Moviegoers, Siskel & Ebert or RT
Ebert gave Beavis and Butthead praise, but I don't think it sent people running to the theaters.

RT on the other hand didn't stop people from going to see BvS.


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