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re: Someone explain wanting to remake good movies to me
Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:30 pm to VOR
Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:30 pm to VOR
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And it makes zero sense to me that a masterpiece should be remade to make it more "relevant" to today. That makes almost no sense if you really analyze it.
Wasn't 10 Things I Hate About You a modern tale of Taming of the Screw?
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Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:50 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Taming of the Screw
Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:53 pm to VOR
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And it makes zero sense to me that a masterpiece should be remade to make it more "relevant" to today. That makes almost no sense if you really analyze it.
there are only what, 7 stories? by default the same stories keep getting remade to play towards their respective modern audiences
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Since there is still confusion about what I mean, I'll try one last time to clarify things:
My favorite movie ever is Kind Hearts and Coronets, made in 1949 (for purposes of this example it could really be any old movie). It's my favorite movie, and that's it. It's there if I want to watch it. It's done. The process is over and either I watch it or I don't.
Some people don't feel that way. Let's say somebody's favorite movie is It's A Wonderful Life. They love it, and watch it often.
But for some reason that's not enough for them. They want to see their favorite movie remade. First of course, they want it in COLOR. And with CGI, though I'm not sure where it would be used -- maybe for the angel popping in and out. And with their current favorite star, Leo or -- God help us all -- Matt Damon instead of Jimmy Stewart.
And they want it to be more "relevant", whatever that means.
My favorite movie ever is Kind Hearts and Coronets, made in 1949 (for purposes of this example it could really be any old movie). It's my favorite movie, and that's it. It's there if I want to watch it. It's done. The process is over and either I watch it or I don't.
Some people don't feel that way. Let's say somebody's favorite movie is It's A Wonderful Life. They love it, and watch it often.
But for some reason that's not enough for them. They want to see their favorite movie remade. First of course, they want it in COLOR. And with CGI, though I'm not sure where it would be used -- maybe for the angel popping in and out. And with their current favorite star, Leo or -- God help us all -- Matt Damon instead of Jimmy Stewart.
And they want it to be more "relevant", whatever that means.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:07 pm to Kafka
I've always thought it was backwards as well
Remake shitty movies with interesting concepts
Why they remake movies such as the thing is perplexing
Remake shitty movies with interesting concepts
Why they remake movies such as the thing is perplexing
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:08 pm to Kafka
A movie like waterworld would be ripe for a remake
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:12 pm to Kafka
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And they want it to be more "relevant", whatever that means.
mostly it just shows that some values are eternal. it's an association with the past that humans tend to love
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:13 pm to DelU249
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Why they remake movies such as the thing is perplexing
you mean the john carpenter 80s version that everyone loves?
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sci fi movies from the 50s were awful, not to mention it's not a by the books remake
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you mean the john carpenter 80s version that everyone loves?
I don't love it
and some guy earlier in the thread said he hates watching "old" stuff from back in the '80s
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:18 pm to Kafka
I love movies from every decade, but sci fi was not really a good genre until the late 60s
the thing is so good
the thing is so goodPosted on 6/9/13 at 3:37 pm to DelU249
i just don't get waht you're referring to. the 80s thing is remake of a 50s sci fi movie, which fits your definition of an "ok" movie to remake. why is it perplexing that it was remade?
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:38 pm to Kafka
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I don't love it
for the record, i don't either
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and some guy earlier in the thread said he hates watching "old" stuff from back in the '80s
some styles/genres age differently than others
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:48 pm to Kafka
It's not that I want remakes; it's just that I'm not against remakes. I'm not close minded to the possibility that a new creative interpretation or the application of new technologies wouldn't be as or even more enjoyable an experience. Now I have to be convinced that it's at least a possibility before I will see it, but that's not the same as being close-minded. I do think that today's access to practically everything when you want it raises the bar, but it's not an impossible hurdle.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 3:52 pm to Kafka
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and some guy earlier in the thread said he hates watching "old" stuff from back in the '80s
When I was much younger I didn't like stuff from my parents era either.
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm referring to the remake of a few years ago. Carpenter made a great movie, so why the remake?
Remake shitty movies with poor execution
Remake shitty movies with poor execution
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:35 pm to DelU249
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I'm referring to the remake of a few years ago.
you mean the prequel? it wasn't a remake
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Carpenter made a great movie, so why the remake?
they didn't remake it
actually
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They were looking at the Universal library, and one of the great titles that popped out at them was The Thing. This movie precedes that film, they said, and it's the story of the Norwegian camp from the Carpenter movie. They made no attempt to remake that film because "it's brilliant." It was very important "not to paint a mustache on the Mona Lisa,"
boom roasted
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:37 pm to Indiana Tiger
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It's not that I want remakes; it's just that I'm not against remakes. I'm not close minded to the possibility that a new creative interpretation or the application of new technologies wouldn't be as or even more enjoyable an experience
i agree
and unless somebody pulls a lucas, the original is still unchanged. nobody is destroying your childhood b/c the remake of TMNT doesn't have ninja foot soldiers (and the TMNT went through multiple interpretations prior to the movies that were made, and then underwent others after)
Posted on 6/9/13 at 6:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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nobody is destroying your childhood b/c the remake of TMNT doesn't have ninja foot soldiers
Why don't we just remake Rambo with a woman as the main character then?
Don't drastically change a key point just for the sake of changing it. I also hate when they remake a movie and have a white character be black or a male character played by a female. It's too cutesy.Posted on 6/9/13 at 7:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's one example so not that important. I guess I just assumed a movie titled "the thing" might be a remake of "the thing" moreover I see prequels on the same plateau as remakes. It's just a cash grab banking on a brand name. I'm not naive, I understand that movies are big business, but I'd like to think there is an element of creativity to it and that most movies are a product of that creativity. 98% of movies are sequels, remakes or prequels. Television seems to be the medium for interesting ideas.
Surely you're not arguing that remakes are not out of hand?
Surely you're not arguing that remakes are not out of hand?
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