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re: So, Justified is Average Television *Spoilers*

Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:22 pm to
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until it ends so you can tell everyone else how much you hate it.



I don't hate the show. It's entertaining. Some aspects are outstanding. But the majority of this board acted like it was the second coming of Breaking Bad.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:24 pm to
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what about the entire last season spent at the farm, in a storyline that should have taken 2-3 eps tops?



The framework of the show is different, which keeps it intriguing and unfortunately masks some of the bad writing. Hopefully they'll straighten it out in the next episode or two, then move on. It's one of those shows they just drag out I've come to expect.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:48 pm to
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But the majority of this board acted like it was the second coming of Breaking Bad.


No one. And I mean no one. On this board. Has said that.

Justified season 2 is one of the best seasons of television ever created (that doesn't mean Justified is as good as Breaking Bad, which has had multiple seasons of pure amazing). Mags Bennett was one of the most complex and interesting villains ever created on TV; a woman who is at her core a mother, but a mother to a bunch of screwups in rural Kentucky whose sole means of occupation has been to farm pot for years. She is constantly torn between her love for her sons and her hatred of their stupidity, all while trying to ensure that her family name and position remains intact for years to come with the coal mine deal. She is fantastic because, like Boyd, she is not evil. She is simply on the wrong side of the law.

Which gets me to the greatest part of this show: there is no truly good or bad guy. Boyd, as much as he wants to pretend, is not a cold-blooded bastard. Raylen, as much as he wants to pretend, is not the moral arm of the law.

And the fact that you think Raylen has no personality seriously makes me question (a) your ability to reason, and (b) whether you're trolling. This guy is filled with personality. His character depth is like the goddamn ocean compared to nearly every other character on TV. I mean, shite, he grew up in bumfrick Kentucky, knowing he wanted to escape, to a father who was a sociopath and criminal, whose wife has left him, whose inability to escape his past haunts him, despite the fact that he knows he fits in it... Seriously. The guy oozes personality. He is complex as all hell.

If you don't like the show, fine. But your reasons for not liking the show are categorically stupid. Yeah I said it.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted by littlemslouie
Walker, LA
Member since Jan 2012
205 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:00 pm to
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And the fact that you think Raylen has no personality seriously makes me question (a) your ability to reason, and (b) whether you're trolling. This guy is filled with personality. His character depth is like the goddamn ocean compared to nearly every other character on TV. I mean, shite, he grew up in bumfrick Kentucky, knowing he wanted to escape, to a father who was a sociopath and criminal, whose wife has left him, whose inability to escape his past haunts him, despite the fact that he knows he fits in it... Seriously. The guy oozes personality. He is complex as all hell


This...this is one of my all time favorite TV shows.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3806 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:06 pm to
The Walking Dead really isn't very good. I continue to watch because I enjoy a good post apocalyptic story just as much as the next guy. But it really could be so much better. The acting, writing and slow pace more than kill any appeal that the genre has for me.

Justified on the other hand is one of the better shows on televisions IMO.

This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 2:07 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:19 pm to
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justified is about 24x better than walking fricking dead

season 2 of justified is better than any season of those shows except breaking bad

i agrees with everything except being better then GOT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:28 pm to
i missed GOT, so you're right

*ETA: i may need to re-watch season 2 again b/c i may go back on that and call it better than GOT 1 or 2
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 2:29 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:20 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


You do know Justified, although you underrate Season 1. Bo Crowder was awesome.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 3:35 pm to
I also wouldn't but Justified at the same level as BB and GoT, it is a better show in terms of acting and plot than Walking Dead which is pretty much a B rated zombie show but yea, I like it.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:04 pm to
are you fricking kidding me??

you are shitting me, right?

justified doesnt even belong in the same sentence with the walking dead.

you are an idiot for even thinking so.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:17 pm to
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although you underrate Season 1. Bo Crowder was awesome.


He was...the last 4 episodes he showed up on. It was horrendously slow before that with the random "one off" plot lines.
Posted by TigersNYC
Deep In The City
Member since Jan 2010
637 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:17 pm to
Honestly, the first two seasons were eh. Third season was awesome, fourth seems pretty solid.

Still wouldnt call it average
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:19 pm to
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Honestly, the first two seasons were eh.


What I'm saying

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Third season was awesome,


Just started but I really like what they did with that cat from Dexter. He's an awesome character. I don't know what happens to him as Raylan just shot him. That's where I'm at. Hope that's not the end of the line for that creepy guy.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 4:19 pm
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:19 pm to
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justified doesnt even belong in the same sentence with the walking dead.


You're right, it doesn't...because Justified is so superior to The Walking Dead. I'm a big fan of TWD, look forward to it every week, but it's not a great show. It has lots of character issues, pacing problems, and writing that's just off. It seems like a lot of its fixes should be easily remedied, but they're not. TWD has some great moments, but there's a lot of in-between that takes a while to get to them.

Almost every scene in Justified oozes cool. The characters are awesome, sometimes the history or Harlan feels GoTish. I like both a lot, but Justified is better on almost every level.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:20 pm to
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4. The dialogue between Raylon and Boyd is excellent. They probably have the best chemistry on TV. Worst character in the show has to be Dicky. His mother was a close second. I'm sorry, I wasn't sold on those four (4) dumbos running anything beyond a backwoods pea patch. Cooder or whatever his name was the most authentic out the bunch.


The guy that played dickey was nominated for an Emmy both season, and won the second.

Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:22 pm to
You got to be f-ing kidding me. He must be outstanding in season 3.
Posted by MaesterMullen
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Member since Jul 2012
1653 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:24 pm to
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The guy that played dickey was nominated for an Emmy both season, and won the second.


looks like a crazy bastard in real life too
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9977 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:25 pm to
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The guy that played dickey was nominated for an Emmy both season, and won the second


Not to mention Margo won an Emmy for playing Mags in season 2. Clearly the OP is a brilliant judge of acting ability.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:26 pm to
Just because I won't deep throat the show. Look, it's a good average show. But half of you act like it's transformed television.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21023 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 4:30 pm to
Jeremy Davies is an outstanding actor
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