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So I rewatched 101 Dalmatians for the the first time since I was probably 6

Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:42 pm
And it was really good. Especially the beginning. There’s a lot of subtext in the first 20 minutes of the film that there’s no way I would have picked up on til I was an adult.

This might be the most grounded Disney animation project I can remember. The dog network is cool but feels grounded. And it was cool to see how that played out.

Sergeant Tibbs is extremely underrated.

Now I’ll get to the controversial part. The villains are the worst part of this movie.

They aren’t bad by any means. But they don’t feel like they fit in with the rest of the world at all. In a movie that’s extremely nuanced, they’re over the top cartoonish.

My first thought of seeing Cruella was “oh my god, Cruella is a coke addict. Like a seriously struggling coke addict. You can smell how disgusting she is just watching her on screen.

Also, shout out to the maid. Underrated very sweet character
Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:54 pm to
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My first thought of seeing Cruella was “oh my god, Cruella is a coke addict


I'm no expert, but was cocaine all that prevalent in the early 60's? I'm thinking not. Not saying there weren't other substances she could have been addicted to, even cocaine, I guess.

Posted by Dawgirl
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:56 pm to
While I loved all the movies that Disney made back then, Bambi is still my favorite. I'll have to watch Bambi and 101 again since I havent seen either one since I was 10.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:59 pm to
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Sergeant Tibbs is extremely underrated.


David Frankham - still alive at 95 years young. A Brit who did some American television, including an episode of Star Trek.

The villains were supposed to be cartoonish - I like the contrast - the protagonists all sort of lived in a "grounded" to use your term world while the villains were the main source of comedy.

The legendary television actor J. Pat O'Malley was Jasper (and the Colonel and the Mechanic) of course played the old Brit in every American television show of the 1950s through early 1980s - hundreds of television credits.
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:01 pm to
I like Fox and the Hound
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:02 pm to
I mean, Sherlock Homes was a coke head and that was written in the 1920s
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:04 pm to
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I'm no expert, but was cocaine all that prevalent in the early 60's? I'm thinking not.


Cocaine used to be legal, over the counter.



And I'm not 100% sure what the setting is supposed to be in the 1961 Disney classic - the book was published in 1956 and definitely a period piece for 1961 purposes. It's too late (cars, technology) to be Edwardian, Great War or interwar period. Doesn't feel like WWII, either, so I would guess it is set in the late 1940s.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:06 pm to
Yeah, Freud was a coke addict in the late 1800s. It’s been around for a while, it just didn’t reach epidemic levels until crack and socialized coke use in the 80s
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:06 pm to
I haven’t watched 101 Dalmatians since I was a kid, but I did rewatch Robin Hood, and man what a disappointment it is as an adult. I really don’t think it’s all that good of a movie. Loved it as a kid and would encourage parents to show it to their kids, but it doesn’t hold up.
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:08 pm to
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So I rewatched 101 Dalmatians for the the first time since I was probably 6


I probably saw it 2 or 3 times as a kid, then 20+ years later watched it 200 times with my kid.

shite is fricking GREAT. Just the background animation of 1940s-60s dirty, grimey, class conscious London is incredible. You can feel the cobblestones and smell the smoke just looking at the screen.

Think I've said this before, but the panel show-in-a-show "What's My Crime" is a hilarious idea I would probably watch in real life.

Cruella is probably under-used but thats also part of her greatness. She is legitimately demonic and gross every second that she's on screen. No character arc, no empathetic backstory, more than probably any other Disney villain she's just a fricking spider that crawled out from under a rock. She doesn't even go to jail! Isn't punished at all! Probably sued Roger for royalties to his first big hit and took him and Anita to the cleaners.
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:08 pm to
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I did rewatch Robin Hood, and man what a disappointment it is as an adult. I really don’t think it’s all that good of a movie.




Dalmations, Jungle Book and Robin Hood are "peak Disney animation". The absolute cream of the crop.
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:10 pm to
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I haven’t watched 101 Dalmatians since I was a kid, but I did rewatch Robin Hood


It holds up much better. There's some dumb recurring bits with the puppies and it's a little stilted in the first half, but Robin Hood is a legitimately bad movie by comparison.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:20 pm to
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I'm no expert, but was cocaine all that prevalent in the early 60's? I'm thinking not. Not saying there weren't other substances she could have been addicted to, even cocaine, I guess.

In the early 60's, someone like her would've been called a speed freak. Doctors were still giving housewives Benzedrine as a pick-me-up.
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:22 pm to
No it isn’t
Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:25 pm to
Few of our childhood shows stand the test of time.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:30 pm to
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Sherlock Holmes was a coke head and that was written in the 1920s


Try the 1880s/1890s.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 7:24 pm to
Pretty sure Sherlock was on opium
Posted by Duzz
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:52 pm to
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My first thought of seeing Cruella was “oh my god, Cruella is a coke addict. Like a seriously struggling coke addict. You can smell how disgusting she is just watching her on screen.


Well, she IS a fashion designer, they are ALL coke addict.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:02 am to
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I did rewatch Robin Hood, and man what a disappointment
who hurt you
Posted by metallica81788
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:17 am to
I watched it a few weeks ago for the first time in decades and agree with basically every point you made.

Holds up incredibly well. The first 20 minutes is almost the antithesis to the beginning of Up and just like that there is a lot going on.
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