re: SJW out of control

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Again, what did I say previously that indicated to you that I was a racist?

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I answered this already. I guess we can mark off reading comprehension from your list of traits too.

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There's a whole lot of people that don't think black people can be racist. Or they ignore racism from blacks. In the area of interracial relationships, black racism is just as overt as it is from any card-carrying Klan member like Esquire here.

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Feel free to prove me wrong, but it feels like you're setting up a strawman.

Show me a message board with a black guy melting down about how the proportion of interracial relationships is too high in TV commercials, and he knows that isn't how America looks. That's what a (I assume) white guy posted earlier in this thread.

Beyond that, a lot of what you're saying feels like whataboutism.

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An apology for you being a douchebag would also be acceptable.

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I had led with feel free to prove me wrong for a reason. It is always better to comment on what people are actually saying than an invented hypothetical of what they might say. Take gentrification. A common complaint is that it raises the price of goods and services and prices out residents. I'm far less likely to think that complaint is race based than a white guy complaining about how the "culture" of his neighborhood is changing. It's always better to address actual statements.

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I've invented nothing. You led with "prove me wrong" because you are a skeptic. That's understandable. Here are a couple of examples, go to a website like Lipstick Alley or The Root and read the things that are said about what we are discussing here.

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Ok, I went to Lipstick Alley. They have a specific interracial relationship forum. Stuff is all over the map, but I didn't see any commercial complaints. The thing closest to what you're talking about was a thread by a black woman ripping a black man who posted a blog about how he wouldn't date black women. Since I looked over there, can I ask you a question in return? Why do you read Lipstick Alley?

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They have more forums than TD. Their specific IR forum is trash, mostly haters hating on interracial relationships. Easily more racist than anything that has been said in this thread.

What's wrong with going to that site? It has interesting discussions and different points of view. Why do I come to the site we're on now? I have no affiliation with LSU. But discussion here is interesting, varied and it has high traffic.

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What's wrong with going to that site? It has interesting discussions and different points of view. 

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I just asked why. I didn't say you were wrong for it.

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There's a whole lot of people that don't think black people can be racist. Or they ignore racism from blacks. In the area of interracial relationships, black racism is just as overt as it is from any card-carrying Klan member like Esquire here.

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I've seen two types of thought when someone says "a black person cannot be racist". It mostly depends on how one interprets the word racist.

1. If you feel that the word racist means "biased against people because of their race", then black people can obviously be racist.

2. If a person interprets the word racist as "systemically holding down a race" then black people cannot be racist because they never held the power to be able to do that. They can be bigots, but not racists.


I'm not really on either side of the fence, I just found it interesting when I watched a debate between two people and it took a bit to realize they were working under two different definitions of the word. At no point did the person working off #2 think that black people couldn't be biased or bigoted.

Of course, there are people who say "black people cannot be racist" and operate under definition #1. Those people are obviously wrong.

Just something I observed, not my personal opinion on the subject.

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I've seen two types of thought when someone says "a black person cannot be racist"

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Your post is interesting, and it hits on a good thought.

There's a secondary topic I see come up fairly frequently on here that's a spinoff of your #2. Some people ask why it's regarded differently when a white person talks about white power vs a black person talking about black power.

The subset of #2 is that there's historical context to actions. White power is used historically to subjugate other races. Black powe has its origins in a subjugated race striving for equality.

To this day, there isn't an equal relationship to power among different racial groups in America. That's why when white people say they want to maintain their culture or power, it means something different.

There's blatant racism, where a person just hates another racial group for being that racial group. Then, there are more nuanced questions that demand context, where you have to evaluate the place from which a person is speaking.

And then there's being mad Jake from State Farm changed races.

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I've seen two types of thought when someone says "a black person cannot be racist". It mostly depends on how one interprets the word racist.

1. If you feel that the word racist means "biased against people because of their race", then black people can obviously be racist.

2. If a person interprets the word racist as "systemically holding down a race" then black people cannot be racist because they never held the power to be able to do that. They can be bigots, but not racists.

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Very well said

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black Jake from State Farm

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That's a real thing:

LINK