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re: Sinners is on max
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:45 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:45 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The problem is that there are those like the writer who refuse to understand or acknowledge that every single culture that exists is guilty of it.
Sinners really missed out on the great fried chicken debate by having the main vamp be Irish and not Scottish.
You want to actually be subversive, THAT would have been subversive
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:45 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
His portrayal of the Chinese couple is borderline racist
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sinners really missed out on the great fried chicken debate by having the main vamp be Irish and not Scottish.
You want to actually be subversive, THAT would have been subversive
Last name O'Cane?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yep. I think the movie was a solid 7/10, so not using these points to try and shite on it or anything, more to the larger discussion around the term itself.
Within the context of this movie, even blues music took a lot from the ballad and work songs passed down from european immigrants that settled in the south. So, while the blues is 100% a black community creation as far as a genre of music, if we are using the term how most use it today, is also guilty of cultural appropriation (which is why, as you agree, the term is so ludicrous).
Totally. I think the musical director’s opinion on this likely differs quite a bit from the author of that article. Hell, Metallica was an influence in the score & Lars was involved with the soundtrack.
Goransson is a very white (Swedish) guy, so the fact he was given that responsibility on this film is telling IMO. He’s credited as co-writer on the song from the big montage scene, and there’s a clip of him and Miles performing it live at a party on set.
7/10 is a perfectly reasonable. I am obviously a huge music nerd, so it just resonated with me more.
Just wanted to clarify I’m not some fanatic who thinks everyone has to like the same things as me. Madking is just hilarious when he has a bad or unpopular take.
He actually occasionally has good takes, but he spins out like that anytime he’s wrong about something or in the minority.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:54 pm to DeathByTossDive225
You are obsessed and consistently hypocritical there’s no question about that
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:02 pm to Madking
this happens all the time but i always think about the double standard if you were to reverse the parts of the movie.
If it were a movie about celebrating white music and in the end a white dude mows down about 30 black panthers, how would that go over?
If it were a movie about celebrating white music and in the end a white dude mows down about 30 black panthers, how would that go over?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Coogler is a technical guy, you listen to his interviews when he’s actually being himself and he’s really impressive on the craft of filmmaking. The horror angle was interesting with the vampires but the commentary was sloppy, ignorantly done and it took time away from the good things in the film which were the family and friend dynamics built up in the first half. It also took away from any depth to the vampires which was also a much more interesting aspect of the film than the fat fingered, wrongheaded messaging.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:04 pm to dallastiger55
It feels that way because it’s fraudulent. If it were an honest depiction of that type of material it would hit you in the gut and feel seamless doing it.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:07 pm to dallastiger55
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If it were a movie about celebrating white music and in the end a white dude mows down about 30 black panthers, how would that go over?
You can probably find Amistad on Netflix.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:11 pm to dallastiger55
The fight with the klan people was actually a good idea but it’s handled poorly because it’s that area of the movie. If it’s held back longer and leaned into the surprise angle more it would’ve had a greater impact. Instead you’re hit over the head with it so you can clearly get the idea of the sympathizers, who tell them about it then you get the one man army thing which was silly and poorly executed. It’s like anytime that angle popped up in the movie it was done with the quality of a student film.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:20 pm to Madking
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one man army thing which was silly
WW1 vet on a kamikaze mission with a stash of weapons that included grenades staged an ambush on ambushers who thought they had them cornered in a barn. Actually not that unreasonable. Also thinking Stack was waiting in the barn just in case.
Grindhouse like the second half of this film is supposed to be fun. It ain’t that serious & it’s not attempting to be Saving Private Ryan.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:23 pm to DeathByTossDive225
He gets the drop on them hiding in the woods and starts picking them off with the rifle. He didn’t need to expose himself but he does anyway still firing the rifle. Then he stands right in front of at least 6-10 guys firing the auto without any cover and doesn’t get hit. It’s a bad scene, he’s not a cunning soldier he’s Superman and the idiots he’s fighting somehow don’t take any cover. It’s a poorly executed action scene
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:29 pm to Madking
those Klan guys had the aim of storm troopers.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:30 pm to Madking
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He didn’t need to expose himself but he does anyway still firing the rifle.
Yea, this was the part that made that scene so bad. He is using a mounted LMG, he wouldn't get up and just start hip firing it. His cover wasn't compromised yet and he had the edge in firepower, keep firing in your cover. They could have easily fixed this scene with after the initial barage, he leaves the LMG while they are scrambling, gets to another stashed gun and begins again from a different angle to finish them off, leaving the boss to then have his "moment" with him. Just hopping up and slow walking as you fire from the hip was so silly.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:31 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
i was thinking the same thing. Dude runs out of ammo, walks over to the ground, bends down, grabs the machine gun. Probably a 10-15 second break and is not shot at or hit once?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:35 pm to dallastiger55
They’re not dangerous killers, they’re tropes meant to be cannon fodder for a trailer. The problem is it’s supposed to be a climactic moment. You can get away with scenes kind of like that but toned down a bit in an action movie but they’re always done early on to convey the dominance of the protagonist. At the end of a movie you want danger to overcome that produces drama but in Sinners we get the masturbatory, messaging scene instead.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:43 pm to Madking
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It’s a bad scene, he’s not a cunning soldier he’s Superman
Superman would not have died.
I thought it was obvious that the guy was on a suicide mission (hence, taking off his protection amulet).
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Exactly, you could have the boss man sneak around while Smoke is battling to take out all the other guys then as Smoke is looking for the boss he’s shot from behind and they have that moment at the end. It’s like the director got a boner to kill a bunch of whiteys and lost his mind. That line from Cy Tolliver always pops into my head when I see something like that, “does the water come on you quick?” Like they can’t control themselves or take a breath and just think for a second.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:53 pm to ATrillionaire
Can’t believe I have to explain “Superman” wasn’t meant literally.
If it’s a suicide he wouldn’t have hid
If it’s a suicide he wouldn’t have hid
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:55 pm to Madking
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If it’s a suicide mission he wouldn’t have hid
Can't believe this has to be explained in a day and age where we have suicide bombers and school/church mass shooters.
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