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re: Sinclair Broadcasting has given a list of demands for Kimmel to return to their stations
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:17 pm to Madking
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:17 pm to Madking
It is pretty funny. Hell, if he wants to continue to poorly attempt playing the semantics game, by the image he provided, Kimmel was clearly engaging in the promotion of a hoax.
By the time his comments were made, it was well known that MAGA was not desperately trying to convince everyone that he was anything other than their own. Clearly a hoax
By the time his comments were made, it was well known that MAGA was not desperately trying to convince everyone that he was anything other than their own. Clearly a hoax
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:18 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
You were doing well but somewhere you still ended up getting it wrong.
Saying "MAGA is trying to describe the shooter as anything other than MAGA"
is not the same as saying "The Shooter was MAGA"
"GoCrazyAuburn was trying to describe the color as anything other than blue"
Does not mean the actual color is blue. The statement makes no declaration if you are right or wrong about the color.
You could try to describe red as anything other than blue.
Saying "MAGA is trying to describe the shooter as anything other than MAGA"
is not the same as saying "The Shooter was MAGA"
"GoCrazyAuburn was trying to describe the color as anything other than blue"
Does not mean the actual color is blue. The statement makes no declaration if you are right or wrong about the color.
You could try to describe red as anything other than blue.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:19 pm to Corinthians420
That argument has already been obliterated.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:19 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Btw he just RA’d me. More hypocrisy
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:21 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
Kimmel was clearly engaging in the promotion of a hoax.
Hoax is protected under the satire umbrella.
Satire is protected unless it constitutes defamation, incitement to imminent violence, or another unprotected category of speech, such as obscenity or fraud.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:21 pm to Corinthians420
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:22 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Believe what you want buddy. 
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:24 pm to Corinthians420
You've yet to clearly prove that statement was satire or intended to be satire, so until then, that protection is not applicable nor universal.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:32 pm to Madking
quote:
So if Jimmy Kimmel showed a porn clip the FCC can’t tell them not to because “muh government intervention”?
Of course they can porn is considered indecent to broadcast. This is weird example to use.
If the FCC Chair wasn't making statements about "do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct to take actions on Kimmel", I wouldn't have any issue. Affiliates and advertisers are free to take their money else wear or put pressure on ABC.
quote:
Catch your head
WTF does this mean?
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:35 pm to Dizz
First off ABC suspended him, he hasn’t been canceled and this isn’t a 1st amendment issue. That should be the end of it but to placate you people there’s a kill list on blue sky who’s creators started and are pushing the narrative Kimmel repeated knowing it was a lie and you’re claiming that isn’t obscene? Him being suspended is absolutely the right thing to do period.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:40 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
Kimmel was clearly engaging in the promotion of a hoax.
Here are the list of things that fall under hoax in the first amendment. Let me know which hoax Kimmel pulled off.
False reports to law enforcement: Filing a false report about a crime or emergency, such as a bomb threat, is not protected speech. This is because it causes public alarm and diverts police and emergency resources.
Fraud: Hoaxes intended to deceive others for financial or material gain, like false advertising or knowingly making misrepresentations to obtain money, are illegal. The government can impose liability for these fraudulent statements.
Defamation: While the standard is high, false statements of fact that harm an individual's reputation can lead to a defamation lawsuit. For public figures, the speaker must have acted with "actual malice," meaning they knew the statement was false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.
Perjury: Lying under oath during a government proceeding, such as in court, is a criminal offense and is not protected by free speech.
Election-related hoaxes: Some state and federal laws prohibit certain types of false statements intended to interfere with elections, such as using deepfakes to influence voters. Courts review these regulations carefully to ensure they meet strict constitutional requirements for regulating election speech.
Incitement: Speech that incites others to riot or engage in "imminent lawless action" is a category of unprotected speech. For example, the classic analogy of falsely shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater would fall under this category.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:49 pm to Corinthians420
I'm sorry, we are still on you proving that his statement was intended as satire. We can move onto your next line of questioning once you can do that.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:52 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Luckily for all of us, when you wanna limit free speech, the burden of proof falls on you to prove it was not satire despite being part of a late night comedy show
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:55 pm to Corinthians420
Man you are just in love with failing today aren't you? You're the one that made the claim that it was satire. The burden of proof of proving it is satire, falls on you. Otherwise, your claim that this is a 1st amendment violation under the satire protections is not valid.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:58 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Common sense.
quote:
Late-night shows classified as satire often use humor, irony, parody, and exaggeration to offer a critical take on politics, news, and current events.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
His past positions on the topic prove that he is not in favor of free speech but is in favor of the messaging Kimmel repeated and the narrative those statements come from. That should tell you everything.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:59 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Deal with it, loser.
Your side started this. Now reap the whirlwind!
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:59 pm to Corinthians420
Is it your assertion that every statement made on a late night show is satire?
ETA: More preceisely, every statement made by the host? Obviously can't hold them completely accountable for what someone else says on their show.
ETA: More preceisely, every statement made by the host? Obviously can't hold them completely accountable for what someone else says on their show.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:01 pm to Madking
quote:
His past positions on the topic prove that he is not in favor of free speech but is in favor of the messaging Kimmel repeated and the narrative those statements come from. That should tell you everything.
Oh I know his game, i'm just bored.
M/TV board isn't the place for this thread derailment honestly, it just happens to be the thread I got sucked into.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:01 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Jonny Carson canceled guests he didn’t like “muh free speech”
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