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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:48 pm to
Didn’t someone say a worker found the bike?

I didn’t really understand how it was just ‘found’ when they had to pull it out with a forklift as well.
Posted by Slippy
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:38 pm to
The Mexican who supposedly saw Keane throw the bike in the lake presumably also tipped somebody off that it was there. This reeks of an Adora setup. I'm sure she gave the Mexican something for his trouble.

Here is what I think. I think Adora and the sheriff know who killed those girls and they are covering for her. The writers want you to think Amma is the killer. Maybe she is Adora and the sheriff's love child. I cannot explain how the cheerleader with the Evander Holyfield ear is involved. But the pulling of the teeth on the dead girls might have something to do with her getting her ear bitten off.

No, I didn't read the book, and yes, I am pulling shite out of my arse.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:59 pm to
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The Mexican who supposedly saw Keane throw the bike in the lake presumably also tipped somebody off that it was there. This reeks of an Adora setup. I'm sure she gave the Mexican something for his trouble.

Sheriff Vickery contacted her before anyone else about the bike (Granted the pig farm is on her property).

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Here is what I think. I think Adora and the sheriff know who killed those girls and they are covering for her. The writers want you to think Amma is the killer. Maybe she is Adora and the sheriff's love child. I cannot explain how the cheerleader with the Evander Holyfield ear is involved. But the pulling of the teeth on the dead girls might have something to do with her getting her ear bitten off.

I don't think the writers want you to believe that Amma is the killer. She's clearly got her issues and wants a certain amount of attention. But I've never gotten the vibe that she killed those two girls. Ashley alluded to the fact that Adora knows a great deal about one of the girls being murdered. Granted, Ashley has her own problems with control and being in the spotlight.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 4:01 pm to
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I'll give it props for that if that's the case.

It's just it's been six episodes and absolutely nothing has happened.

Outside of Camille and maybe Amma, there has been no character development. And that's being generous of you want to say that about either of those characters.

Adora is still the exact same crazy person she was since the beginning. Det. Willis is just some plain Jane detective that doesn't do anything outside of making one phone call to try and find out more about Camille and wondering around the town. Alan is just a vague as ever, they haven't tried to make him anymore interesting. Chief Vickory, another useless cop, has been the same exact character as from the start, other than you know he has some kind relationship/past with Adora.

So the story is basically "let's make everybody just stupidly weird or extremely vanilla, give no depth of character to anybody, then do the final reveal and pretend it was right in front of you all the time."

But it's not surprising that I'm not crazy about it seeing that Gone Girl was one of the worst books I've ever read. I loath that piece of trash of a story. This just started out good and I like any Adams so I wanted to really like it. But basically you're going to be able to watch episode one, skip everything else until the last episode, and you would barely miss a beat.


My wife and I are of the same opinion. If Amy Adams wasn't in it I probably would have quit watching.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:03 pm to
This would make sense as to why Adora also hates that Camille is covering the story as well.

Or she just hates her daughter, probably a combination of both.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:14 pm to
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This last episode progressed the murder and introduced the fact that Adora is possibly putting this murder on someone else.


And may have murdered Camille’s sister.

It’s subtle progression. They don’t smack you in the face with things.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 5:17 pm to
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My wife and I are of the same opinion. If Amy Adams wasn't in it I probably would have quit watching.


Camille - Likable, has redeemable qualities, you feel bad for her
Adora - giant bitch, impossible to like
Amma - super annoying and kind of hope she gets killed, excellent on skates
Det. Willis - eh ok, nothing special about you, so no reason to hate you or really like you
Vickory - useless cop that somehow has a job, super boring, couldn't care less about him
Alan - almost as annoying and unlikable as Adora just in a different way
Token Gossiping Friends - just a bunch of idiots
Frank the Boss - he's good at making phone calls
Frank the Boss' wife: really good at giving Frank looks to let him know he didnt need to say that
John - he's like the 6th leading character and has said six word in six episodes. Unintentional 666 reference, that now tells me he's the killer.


I mean there isnt much to like outside of Amy Adams

Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:39 pm to
What is the deal with the people who do these podcasts? It’s like these people don’t even pay attention to the show. Was just listening to the podcast that was posted, and these hosts don’t appear to be any better than the Bald Move podcast.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:17 pm to
I definitely feel like Amma is involved in the killings and that the show has hinted at it several times.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:09 am to
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Didn’t someone say a worker found the bike?

Thanks, that would make more sense.
Posted by CootKilla
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:14 am to
quote:

cheerleader with the Evander Holyfield ear is involved. But the pulling of the teeth on the dead girls might have something to do with her getting her ear bitten off


I believe Camille has put 2 and 2 together on the ear bite marks. I am not sure if both girls had their teeth pulled out though. Maybe the murdered girls bit Ashley's ear off and she murdered them and pulled their teeth out as revenge.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:44 am to
quote:

It’s subtle progression. They don’t smack you in the face with things.

Which is a good thing. This isn't CSI: Wind Gap
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Camille - Likable, has redeemable qualities, you feel bad for her
Adora - giant bitch, impossible to like
Amma - super annoying and kind of hope she gets killed, excellent on skates
Det. Willis - eh ok, nothing special about you, so no reason to hate you or really like you
Vickory - useless cop that somehow has a job, super boring, couldn't care less about him
Alan - almost as annoying and unlikable as Adora just in a different way
Token Gossiping Friends - just a bunch of idiots
Frank the Boss - he's good at making phone calls
Frank the Boss' wife: really good at giving Frank looks to let him know he didnt need to say that
John - he's like the 6th leading character and has said six word in six episodes. Unintentional 666 reference, that now tells me he's the killer.


I mean there isnt much to like outside of Amy Adams




Why exactly do you need characters to root for?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:50 am to
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I definitely feel like Amma is involved in the killings and that the show has hinted at it several times.

What are the hints?

Amma has been secretive about her relationship with those two girls and why they play around in that shed. She also was in plain sight with Camille when the second body was found in the alleyway. I'm not saying it's impossible. But I find it highly unlikely that Amma would kill anyone.

If anything, Adora wheels the power to make someone disappear from Wind Gap without a trace. Which leads me to believe that Adora will try to do something to Camille and actually end up hurting Amma.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:54 am to
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Why exactly do you need characters to root for?

That almost seems to be a trend in movies and shows these days where none of the characters possess redeeming qualities worthy of the viewer's support.

Perhaps it's a writing device used to indicate everyone has flaws or perhaps it's simply art imitating our present society. In any event, it has become more and more prevalent.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:57 am to
quote:

That almost seems to be a trend in movies and shows these days where none of the characters possess redeeming qualities worthy of the viewer's support.


Literally happened in HBO’s last show that just ended, ‘Succession’.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Literally happened in HBO’s last show that just ended, ‘Succession

You're right. They're not just simply flawed, they are truly horrible people lacking any and all human qualities of value.

Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:24 am to
I know people who stopped watching "Mad Men" because they couldn't find someone to root for. I find it to be a good thing. We really don't need defined good and/or bad characters in tv/movies.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Why exactly do you need characters to root for?


I dont. But that doesn't mean that I don't want pretty much every character to be either annoying or useless.

There are two cops trying to solve a murder and they have done nothing to actively trying and solve it.

This isn't CSI: Wind Gap, not sure what part of my comments have I said I wanted it to be like that?

One of my main gripes, and nobody has really given me any reason to not think this way, but there has been very little to no character development and story progression in regards to the murder. The show is going to have to be CSI in the last episode bc they are going to have to cram everything of importance in to one episode.

Somebody commented earlier that there had been a lot of character development and especially in the Calhoun day episode. I simply asked for an explanation, and dont get one.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:50 am to
quote:

There are two cops trying to solve a murder and they have done nothing to actively trying and solve it.

Sheriff Vickery doesn't want outsiders like KC & Camille coming into town upsetting the cart. It's pretty obvious that he's lackadaisical because he doesn't hold the power in wind gap. He's basically the overseer and reports to Adora about everything.

quote:

One of my main gripes, and nobody has really given me any reason to not think this way, but there has been very little to no character development and story progression in regards to the murder.
You seem to want this grand conspiracy (aka True Detective S1) which this mini series was never aiming to be that. They've interviewed certain suspects and even found some evidence on the pig farm last episode. I'd also tend to look at the timetable this story is being told in. I'd be willing to say this entire series is playing out over month of two.

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