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re: San Diego Comic-Con Mega-Thread: Updates and Discussion
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:48 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:48 pm to Dr RC
quote:The Dark Knight is much more realistic than the first Batman. The Joker uses a pistol to shoot down a plane.
Nolan's flicks are really no more realistic in tone and grounded in reality than the first Burton Batman. All Nolan did was remove the surrealism and toy line aspects that creeped in over the next 3 original Bat sequels.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:49 pm to abellsujr
When does he shoot down a plane?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:50 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:52 pm to abellsujr
Nvm. I thought you were saying he shot one down in The Dark Knight.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:52 pm to abellsujr
quote:the video of Tom Waits
Which part? The DC/Marvel debate, the SvB teaser, the Mad Max Trailer, or the AoU teaser description? A lot has happened in the past couple of days. Elaborate....
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:55 pm to John McClane
That guy is crazy. I'm sure him and Ledger were friends. They worked together on his last movie.
I'm sure him and Ledger were friends. They worked together on his last movie.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:56 pm to abellsujr
Just getting it off post 666
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:45 pm to abellsujr
quote:
The Dark Knight is much more realistic than the first Batman. The Joker uses a pistol to shoot down a plane.
In Batman Begins he jumps rooftops in a heavy duty armored car and somehow they don't cave in. The bad guys crack open a water main to dump the toxic crap in a way that should have flooded the room. Gordon gets into the Batmobile and somehow knows how to drive it like an old pro.
In The Dark Knight he jumps out of a 20+ story building, catches Rachael, lands back first onto a car and crushes it. Yet somehow he gets right up like nothing happened. Who the hell even knows what happened to the people at that party b/c we never even see Batman go back. Half of Harvey's face is burned off yet he talks completely normal as if he still has a full set of lips. Pretty cool of Batman's rope to not completely dislocate Joker's leg when he catches him with it on the building.
As for Dark Knight Returns...
Let's forget about how it would have been a ridiculous waste of time for Batman to make the flaming bat symbol on the bridge. Move past Catwoman's ability drive the motorcycle with the odd rotating wheels just as well as Gordon drove the tumbler or that she knew exactly where to go to save Bats from Bane. Forget about the inane notion that every single cop in the city would be ordered to go underground at the same time. It's not even the take over of Wayne's company that was CLEARLY done under terrorist threat thus would not be a valid transaction that stretches the limits of belief. Instead, let's focus on the fact that this is a movie that wants us to believe a nuke blowing up in a major city's harbor is a happy ending. 
Sorry but Nolan's flicks are no more realistic than the first Burton Batman.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:48 pm to Dr RC
quote:That movie had so many damn problems that it amazes me that it was rated so well.
As for Dark Knight Returns... Let's forget about how it would have been a ridiculous waste of time for Batman to make the flaming bat symbol on the bridge. Most past Catwoman's ability drive the motorcycle with the rotating wheels just as well as Gordon drove the tumbler. Forget about the inane notion that every single cop in the city would be ordered to go underground at the same time only to reemerge clean shaven as the day they went in. It's not even the take over of Wayne's company that was CLEARLY done under terrorist threat thus would not be a valid transaction that stretches the limits of belief. Instead let's focus on the fact that this is a movie that wants us to believe a nuke blowing up in a major city's harbor is a happy ending.
I thought it was terrible.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:56 pm to TigerMyth36
I was disappointed with the look of the kryptonian tech and ships in MoS. It looks cool but I was hoping for a crystallized like metal version of something close to the tech you see in Star Wars.
MoS krypton was very well designed but I was hoping for a mixture of Naboo and Coruscant whil looking all arctic like.
MoS krypton was very well designed but I was hoping for a mixture of Naboo and Coruscant whil looking all arctic like.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:59 pm to Dr RC
quote:Since I was talking about this one, I'll only refer to it. I only said it was MORE realistic than the first Batman. Dropping in a pile of chemicals makes you turn white and permanently gives you a smile? Batman sleeps upside down.
In The Dark Knight he jumps out of a 20+ story building, catches Rachael, lands back first onto a car and crushing it, yet somehow gets right up like nothing happened. Who the hell even knows what happened to the people at that party b/c we never even see Batman go back. Half of Harvey's face is burned off yet he talks completely normal as if he still has a full set of lips. Pretty cool of Batman's rope to not completely dislocate Joker's leg when he catches him with it on the building.
Batman kicks peoples asses without even being able to turn his head. Not to mention the fact that he's skinnier than me. He has a plane, yet we don't see where it comes from or how it takes off. The Joker makes a poison that makes everyone permanently smile, and then die. The Joker uses a gun with a hinge and a boxing glove. The Batmobile sets off a bomb right next to itself and comes out unscathed. The Joker makes balloons that poison comes out of. Batman and Vale fall from a building and come to a COMPLETE stop and are unscathed, and just before they were holding on to a ledge for like 5 minutes. We don't know anything about how Batman got trained to fight. We don't know how he built his jet or where his car came from. This is not even an argument.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:14 pm to abellsujr
Look, I don't care enough to actually go through TDK to take it apart bit by bit but I'm sorry, there is just as much ridiculous stuff in it as Batman.
and at ignoring the other two movies and the crazyness that they also get away with b/c Nolan takes the approach of "Play it straight as an arrow and act super serious/dour so they'll ignore all that stuff that could never ever happen or makes no real sense to the plot if you give it more than two minutes thought."
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at ignoring the other two movies and the crazyness that they also get away with b/c Nolan takes the approach of "Play it straight as an arrow and act super serious/dour so they'll ignore all that stuff that could never ever happen or makes no real sense to the plot if you give it more than two minutes thought." This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:16 pm to Dr RC
I love both and both can be ridiculous at times, but the first Batman is much more ridiculous.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:10 am to Dr RC
quote:that's some nitpicky shite right there.
In Batman Begins he jumps rooftops in a heavy duty armored car and somehow they don't cave in. The bad guys crack open a water main to dump the toxic crap in a way that should have flooded the room. Gordon gets into the Batmobile and somehow knows how to drive it like an old pro.
In The Dark Knight he jumps out of a 20+ story building, catches Rachael, lands back first onto a car and crushes it. Yet somehow he gets right up like nothing happened. Who the hell even knows what happened to the people at that party b/c we never even see Batman go back. Half of Harvey's face is burned off yet he talks completely normal as if he still has a full set of lips. Pretty cool of Batman's rope to not completely dislocate Joker's leg when he catches him with it on the building.
As for Dark Knight Returns... Let's forget about how it would have been a ridiculous waste of time for Batman to make the flaming bat symbol on the bridge. Move past Catwoman's ability drive the motorcycle with the odd rotating wheels just as well as Gordon drove the tumbler or that she knew exactly where to go to save Bats from Bane. Forget about the inane notion that every single cop in the city would be ordered to go underground at the same time. It's not even the take over of Wayne's company that was CLEARLY done under terrorist threat thus would not be a valid transaction that stretches the limits of belief. Instead, let's focus on the fact that this is a movie that wants us to believe a nuke blowing up in a major city's harbor is a happy ending.
Sorry but Nolan's flicks are no more realistic than the first Burton Batman
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:50 am to jeff5891
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:05 am to hawgfaninc
:nerdboner:
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:09 am to Dr RC
It's the execution of the films that makes it seem more realistic. Nolan presents all of this in such a way that it makes us believe it could happen in the real world. Re-watch Burton's original Batman films and compare them to Nolan's. You will see two distinctively different presentations.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:34 am to RollTide1987
A nice read on Comic Con in general:
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But I’ll tell you this - while I’ve become pretty cynical about a lot of this stuff in general, I haven’t become cynical about the enthusiasm that comes from Hall H. Yes, it’s a gladiatorial atmosphere, with six thousand people cheering footage and swooning over celebrities, but that enthusiasm is real. And it's magical. Whether it be getting swept up in incredible clips or experiencing the strange event of Francis Ford Coppola leading the room in a chant of "Nosferatu," the energy in those sweeping moments is indescribable. I’ll take this enthusiasm - based on the hope for something to be good, for something to transcend, and springing from the shared moment of being happy about it - over the enthusiasm you see coming out of certain film festivals. That enthusiasm, especially at Sundance, is made up of a kind of self-delusion, an enthusiasm that over-values perfectly mediocre movies. The Comic-Con crowd is getting over-enthused about their hopes for these films, while the Sundance and SXSW crowds are getting over-enthused about a finished movie that doesn’t deserve it.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:01 am to Baloo
quote:
A nice read on Comic Con in general:
LINK /
He's right. First off, most of the bitching that I hear is from people that have never been to SDCC and probably never will get the chance to go.
People complain about the lines to get into the Hollywood stuff while they complain that Hollywood has taken over. Just don't go to the TV and movie panels. There are lines for some of the comic book panels, but nine times out of ten you can get in.
And the problems that I did have at SDCC seemed to be getting addressed as they grow. I enjoyed camping out with my kids to get into Hall H for the DC and Marvel movies, but got pissed when they opened the doors and suddenly people were walking up to meet their friends in line ahead of us. Now they give wristbands for the different points in line throughout the night, so it's harder to cut the line.
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