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re: Rotten Tomatoes ranks top Sci-Fi/Fantasy movies. . .TLJ is the greatest Star Wars movie
Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:36 am to jg8623
Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:36 am to jg8623
quote:And you don't know what "adjusted score" means, my man.
You’re proving my point by not knowing what RT score means
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Movies with 40 or more critic reviews vie for their place in history at Rotten Tomatoes. Eligible movies are ranked based on their Adjusted Scores.
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There is no “formula” or anything of that matter
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Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, weighted equally.
A movie must have 40 or more rated reviews to be considered
The adjusted score comes from a weighted formula (Bayesian) that we use that accounts for variation in the number of reviews per movie
Black Panther has a 97% RT Score
Wizard of Oz has a 98% RT score
Your turn
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 9:22 am
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Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:47 am to blueboy
quote:That is exactly what it means.
What this list actually means is that the RT formula for determining movie goodness has declared Black Panther to be the best Sci Fi movie of all time.
The other kid is right about RT scoring, but not about this list.
They use a formula to account for review disparity, and only use reviews that rate the movie.
That is why some movies with higher RT scores are lower on the list. Bride of Frankenstein has 100% RT score, but is 15th on the list.
If thy were going by RT score, Bride and Toy Story would be 1 & 2
Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:48 am to Freauxzen
quote:Yes
An 8 year old could come up with a better list than this schlock.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:01 am to Roaad
Do people just not care that Kilmonger was awful and Michael Jordan sucked.0
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 9:02 am
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:14 am to Roaad
That’s probably the worst list I’ve ever seen
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:19 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Oh there's more!
That’s probably the worst list I’ve ever seen
check out Drama. . .where Black Panther beat out Citizen Kane
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:30 am to Roaad
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adjusted score comes from a weighted formula (Bayesian)
So movies get extra credit for having lots of explosions?
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:16 am to nes2010
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They will get a lot of people to click the link
Hate clicks, very shrewd on their part.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:32 am to MF Doom
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7 of the 10 highest rated sci fi movies ever have come in the last 2 years. What joke critics have become
I believe we are seeing a strong herd effect in play. It's a statistical phenomenon.
In the past critucs gave their reviews without knowing exactly how other the other critics were doing so. In the internet era it's very easy to see what the critical consensus is in seconds. Critics are letting knowledge of what others are doing influence what they do.
Definitely a part of it, along with bought and paid for shill reviews becoming far more common and critics increasing feeling to let the movies perceived politics be a strong factor.
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:02 am to Roaad
ET is the only one in the top 10 that belongs in the top 10. Wizard of Oz has a strong case.
You best start believing in troll lists. You're in one.
You best start believing in troll lists. You're in one.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 12:01 pm to Roaad
quote:I feel like we're not complaining about this enough.
9. The Shape of Water (2017)
It's basically splash, but with a reverse mermaid (or really, just the dude from Hellboy) a creepy pseudo-latin chick and some Nazis or Commies or whatever.
I haven't even seen the end. I just felt too ridiculous watching it.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:45 pm to PEPE
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I believe we are seeing a strong herd effect in play. It's a statistical phenomenon
That, and it’s how RT’s shitty critics score works.
Critics don’t give a 0-10 score, they give a view or not view recommendation. A 7/10 movie could end up with a RT 50% because half the reviewing critics aren’t sci-fi fans, and a RT 90% could have an audience score of 3/10 because the audience was bored to tears by a cinematic masterpiece
Posted on 1/5/19 at 7:47 pm to Roaad
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The other kid is right about RT scoring, but not about this list.
They use a formula to account for review disparity, and only use reviews that rate the movie.
I stand corrected.
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They use a formula to account for review disparity, and only use reviews that rate the movie
So the average rating that is shown for each movie isn’t just from the reviewers that rate the movie? Black Panther having an 8.2/10 and Oz a 9.4/10?
It seems like Black Panther and other more recent movies are benefiting from having more reviews
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 1/5/19 at 8:55 pm to jg8623
quote:Firstly, I would like to thank you for this concession.
I stand corrected.
It is nice to not be the only one willing to cop to his failings (of which I have very, very many per my wife, and numerous guidance counselors).
A refreshing level of honesty.
So thanks.
quote:There are threads in the RT forum asking/pleading/demanding RT reveal what nonsense formula they are using that makes Ladybird/Black Panther greater than Citizen Kane.
So the average rating that is shown for each movie isn’t just from the reviewers that rate the movie? Black Panther having an 8.2/10 and Oz a 9.4/10?
It seems like Black Panther and other more recent movies are benefiting from having more reviews
Those threads alone should be ranked on their list of top comedies
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:16 pm to Roaad
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Firstly, I would like to thank you for this concession.
It is nice to not be the only one willing to cop to his failings (of which I have very, very many per my wife, and numerous guidance counselors).
A refreshing level of honesty.
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There are threads in the RT forum asking/pleading/demanding RT reveal what nonsense formula they are using that makes Ladybird/Black Panther greater than Citizen Kane.
Yea, I would like to know what critics are on their “discrete list” that they use for the ratings. Because they clearly show us the average rating out of 10 based on all of the critics. Black Panther has a 97% and Oz a 98%, extremely close, but the avg rating out of 10 for Oz is over a whole point difference, yet somehow their “formula” proves otherwise
And it’s not like Wizard of Oz only has 35 reviews, it’s got over 100
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:22 pm to jg8623
quote:Yes to all this
Yea, I would like to know what critics are on their “discrete list” that they use for the ratings. Because they clearly show us the average rating out of 10 based on all of the critics. Black Panther has a 97% and Oz a 98%, extremely close, but the avg rating out of 10 for Oz is over a whole point difference, yet somehow their “formula” proves otherwise
And it’s not like Wizard of Oz only has 35 reviews, it’s got over 100
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:16 pm to Roaad
The fact that the consensus #1 sci fi film according to virtually everyone who knows something about film, Kubrick’s 2001, is not on the list, is criminal
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