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re: Recently finished rewatching The Wire

Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:44 pm to
Top 5(probably 3 shows of all time)

I frickING hated Bill Rawls though. Absolutely necessary character, but just a detestable fricking human being. Definitely not “Natural Police”. He should’ve been killed.
Posted by DBG
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:26 pm to
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And he even had moments where you could respect his choice. Like here, he could’ve made Cutty disappear. But he respected that he had the nuts to tell him he wasn’t in the game anymore.


Exactly right. Avon knew and respected the game too. That’s why he was so pissed when Omar’s grandma was shot at.

Avon was an objectively bad dude. But he was true to himself. Stringer was a fraud.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:28 pm to
I made it through a season or two at my air BNB, now I’m in a new place and they don’t have HBO max.

Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 11:20 pm to
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This is the GOAT tv show for me.


Glad it's you and not me. Seinfeld is a million times better. Breaking Bad is 100. I could literally name 20 that are better to me.

I thought the wire was ok but nothing special.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 11:43 pm to
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frickING hated Bill Rawls though. Absolutely necessary character, but just a detestable fricking human being. Definitely not “Natural Police”. He should’ve been killed.

Agree. I think about it like expected hate or routine hate - that’s the feeling the character is meant to portray, so it’s a success.
Valtreck too. Weasel scumbag.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:12 am to
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frickING hated Bill Rawls though.


Same, but damn if he didn't have a brief moment of redemption as well.

The scene in season 1 where he talks McNulty down and assures him that Kima's shooting wasn't his fault is a helluva moment in the series. The fact that even a character as detestable as Rawls could show some humanity is one of the things I love most about the series.
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Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:02 am to
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Same, but damn if he didn't have a brief moment of redemption as well.

The scene in season 1 where he talks McNulty down and assures him that Kima's shooting wasn't his fault is a helluva moment in the series. The fact that even a character as detestable as Rawls could show some humanity is one of the things I love most about the series.

Maybe the best thing about The Wire is that literally nothing is black and white; it's all gray. And everyone involved has their own levels and shades of gray.

The biggest a-hole on the show can have his moment of compassion and caring. Cops, while mostly "good," can also be pieces of shite human beings and break the rules. Or the criminals, while mostly "bad," can have their moments where they choose the right thing or live by a certain moral code.

Omar is a great example of that. Slim Charles as well. Hell, McNulty is basically the protagonist of the entire series, but even he's a piece of shite sometimes and breaks laws to get his way, or he drinks himself into a stupor and fricks over the only people who truly care about him. Bubbles is a scammer heroin addict, but he also is just a good dude at heart and tries to help where he can. Etc.

It's what makes the show so great.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:10 am to
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I frickING hated Bill Rawls though.


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Definitely not “Natural Police”.


Pretty much every time he engages in police work or oversees it, he's shown to be very astute on the investigatory front.

Now, he's also got the bureaucrat bullshite and is very good at that, too, but I don't know how you can say he's not natural police.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:11 pm to
Love me some Bunk Moreland & Landsman scenes.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37120 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:52 pm to
Rewatching now. 3rd or 4th? Don’t recall.
It’s kinda cool when you start seeing Avon, absolutely credible as a street thug, getting philosophical here and there. And pulls it off well.
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