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re: Reacher Season 3 Discussion
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:48 am to Flats
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:48 am to Flats
quote:For a "normal" soldier, you would be 100% correct. Especially for an MP officer like Reacher.
Technically true but unless you’re in a ceremonial unit or band you don’t spend that much time marching in formation. Certainly not enough to make it muscle memory.
But if you accept the theory that Reacher is on the spectrum, it would have been a conscious decision (years ago) for Reacher to have adopted that stride. It is an interesting theory.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:54 am to Flats
I asked ChatGPT why does Jack Reacher walk funny with short strides? I'm very new to ChatGPT and having fun asking it stupid questions to learn how it works.
It gave 5 possible reasons covering info from books, movies and the show:
-Military training I talked about
-It's due to his size
-Actor decision to make him more imposing and deliberate
-Just to be opposite of Tom Cruise's portrayal which was more fluid
-Psychological aspect: reflects his readiness to stop, turn, or react at any moment.
I'm going with a combo of military training and to make him look bigger, stronger and more ready to go at all times. Even if it looks funny. Some Reddit people think it's because the actor is only 6-2 and is wearing lifts to seem taller and that has an impact
Love the books (read them all except maybe the latest one), the first movie (second was okay), and all 3 season so far (Season 2 was good, not great, to me).
It gave 5 possible reasons covering info from books, movies and the show:
-Military training I talked about
-It's due to his size
-Actor decision to make him more imposing and deliberate
-Just to be opposite of Tom Cruise's portrayal which was more fluid
-Psychological aspect: reflects his readiness to stop, turn, or react at any moment.
I'm going with a combo of military training and to make him look bigger, stronger and more ready to go at all times. Even if it looks funny. Some Reddit people think it's because the actor is only 6-2 and is wearing lifts to seem taller and that has an impact
Love the books (read them all except maybe the latest one), the first movie (second was okay), and all 3 season so far (Season 2 was good, not great, to me).
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:24 am to Dave Worth
quote:Willa Fitzgerald (Officer Roscoe Conklin) is pretty enough, but ...
Season 2 was good, not great, to me
'nuff said.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:06 pm to Scoob
Season has been solid so far. Much better story development so far than season 2. Looking forward to episode 4
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:13 pm to GalacticaCannon
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So far, this is a much better start than the absolute dogshit that was S2 and it’s incessant “special investigators” name drop over and over again.
It's been a long time since I read it but a lot of that cheesy "special investigators" stuff is straight out of the book the season was based on. The author is a Brit and doesn't understand a lot about the US military.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:20 pm to AggieHank86
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nuff said.
That makes a good season for you. There's free porn online, poor thing.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 5:06 pm to Maximus
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That makes a good season for you. There's free porn online, poor thing.
Buy a sense of humor. feel free to splurge. You need it badly.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 6:09 pm to AggieHank86
***SPOILERS***
Just watched episode 4. I know sometimes you’ve got to suspend reality, especially with this show, but this is outlandish.
1. I’m supposed to believe a guy was shot in the head, even by a .22, fell 100 feet into rushing rapids and survived?
2. If that is the case, I’m supposed to believe that Julius, AKA Quinn, who is so heavily involved in everything wouldn’t vet becks number 2 guy thus realizing it is reacher?
Lol. Come on. Good god.
Just watched episode 4. I know sometimes you’ve got to suspend reality, especially with this show, but this is outlandish.
1. I’m supposed to believe a guy was shot in the head, even by a .22, fell 100 feet into rushing rapids and survived?
2. If that is the case, I’m supposed to believe that Julius, AKA Quinn, who is so heavily involved in everything wouldn’t vet becks number 2 guy thus realizing it is reacher?
Lol. Come on. Good god.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:00 pm to BlackJack02
I agree it’s hard to get past the running of the prints in the first episode but that being the extent of his background check. Still a solid season so far
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:31 pm to MrCEO
Agreed that the story is good. The pace is good. Just that plot hole was driving me crazy earlier. I’ll get over it.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:19 am to BlackJack02
Lots of reality has to be suspended for the series, but it remains a solid show to watch.
I laughed hardest at one of the S3E4 season scenes when the CID General Officer was kitted up and clearing rooms on the raid of Quinn's home to determine what happened during the arrest attempt by Kohl.
Yeah... that's not happening. Nor, is the CID raid without Federal or local LEO support on US territory off of a military installation.
I laughed hardest at one of the S3E4 season scenes when the CID General Officer was kitted up and clearing rooms on the raid of Quinn's home to determine what happened during the arrest attempt by Kohl.
Yeah... that's not happening. Nor, is the CID raid without Federal or local LEO support on US territory off of a military installation.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:52 am to Che Boludo
Yea. I was just in the moment irrationally angry lol. Solid show, entertaining.
Also, I don’t think they’d send just 2 people to go after a guy selling national security information.
Also, I don’t think they’d send just 2 people to go after a guy selling national security information.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:23 am to BlackJack02
Yeah, episode 4 has a lot to be desired. Its actually worse than anything in season 2.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:02 am to BlackJack02
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just watched episode 4. I know sometimes you’ve got to suspend reality, especially with this show, but this is outlandish.
1. I’m supposed to believe a guy was shot in the head, even by a .22, fell 100 feet into rushing rapids and survived?
Wasn't 100 ft. And they already addressed that... 22lr didn't penetrate the skull, which is completely possible.
Hypothermia slows the guy's metabolism down, giving him more time to tolerate being in the water without permanent brain damage. Also completely possible.
1 in a million maybe, but that's why it's fiction.
quote:This is the part that gets me. The story starts to fall apart when you look at this angle...
2. If that is the case, I’m supposed to believe that Julius, AKA Quinn, who is so heavily involved in everything wouldn’t vet becks number 2 guy thus realizing it is reacher?
The bodyguard was Quinn's quy keeping the kid under threat, not protecting him. He's a crucial part of the coercion, makes Beck behave or his kid is dead. Allowing him to be replaced, even by an outsider unaware of the actual situation, puts that at risk. Letting Beck hire the bodyguard with the role of really protecting the kid- that takes the leverage out.
That's not even addressing the fact that they ran Reacher's prints, and found out exactly who he is. That type of intel obviously goes uphill, so Quinn is- HAS to be- fully aware Reacher's there. And a criminal mastermind isn't going to casually forget the guy who shot him and left him for dead... "oh, THAT Jack Reacher? Oops"
To me, that says this is all a big game to get revenge on Reacher, but that gets far-fetched, too. For one thing, this approaches "monologuing Bond villain" arrogance on Quinn's part; you let Reacher in and keep working, instead of having him killed asap. And you don't even let your henchmen in on the secret, you let him pick those guys off one at a time.
And Reacher, who is supposed to be smart, as soon as he learns it's Quinn running the show, should realize he's being toyed with.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:11 am to BlackJack02
The villain McCabe/Quinn knows who Reacher is. The moment Beck announced him his boss would’ve had Reacher killed especially after Duke was eliminated and Beck claimed Angel was part of the kidnapping attempt.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 12:39 pm to Flats
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The author is a Brit and doesn't understand a lot about the US military.
quote:
the CID raid without Federal or local LEO support on US territory off of a military installation.
No shite. It’s like they don’t even have a military advisor on set. It bothers me that he is unshaven and didn’t stand up when the superior officer came to his desk.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 1:15 pm to Madking
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The villain McCabe/Quinn knows who Reacher is. The moment Beck announced him his boss would’ve had Reacher killed especially after Duke was eliminated and Beck claimed Angel was part of the kidnapping attempt.
Yeah, there's no was that Quinn doesn't know who Reacher is. Reacher's name was on his uniform when he caught/tried to kill Quinn. And there's no way that Quinn doesn't know the name of the guy that replaced the kid's keeper, much less the guy that took the #2 spot after Duke was killed.
Now they did go out of their way to give Quinn's juvey record that basically stated that he was a psychopath with the animal torture and whatnot, so I guess it may be possible that Quinn is willing to sacrifice Duke, Angel, and the kid's keeper if it was part of his plan to get revenge on Reacher. But I would think that for this all to be part of Quinn's master plan, the plan would've had to been made by Quinn from the jump, before Reacher even infiltrated the group, and not a spur of the moment thing that Quinn decided after Reacher's prints were ran. There just wasn't a whole lot of time to consider all of it from the time that Reacher's prints were run until they gave Reacher the spot on the team after the Russian Roulette test at the barn. And that would mean that Quinn meant for Reacher to see him at the bus stop.
That also makes we wonder of Duffy is in on it since she is the one that is going out of her way to get Reacher onto the crew, and basically breaking laws to allow Reacher to continue his work on the case.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 1:40 pm to Bamatab
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Yeah, there's no was that Quinn doesn't know who Reacher is.
Didn't they try to cover this with the 24-48 hour amnesia comment? That Quinn preserved long term memory after the gunshot wound but his immediate memory would have been lost? Richard Beck talks about how McCabe keeps track of the Beck family 24/7 so having a new member of the crew rise up without McCabe having information wouldn't make sense. I think they're playing it off as, well Quinn lost his immediate memory from the incident and didn't know who was looking for him. And given everyone thought he was dead, seeking the people out who uncovered what he was doing would have drawn unnecessary attention.
You have to suspend a certain amount of disbelief with Reacher to enjoy it for what it is. This season has been much better than Season 2.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 1:41 pm to Bamatab
He definitely knows who he is because he knew when they first tried to catch him. I guess it could be an elaborate trap but Reacher has been a sitting duck since episode 1 so that wouldn’t really make sense.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 1:47 pm to AkronTiger
This is where it gets stupid. He knows Reachers name, he’s also got deep ties in the intel community, global espionage rings, arms dealers and top level politicians from everywhere. Regardless of what’s her name tried to cover his tracks Quinn would easily find out who he is especially since all hell has broken loose since Reacher came on the scene.
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