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re: On a 3rd viewing of TLJ
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:56 am to DelU249
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:56 am to DelU249
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there are going to be fan edits of this movie that are like 1:15 minutes long that will blow the theatrical cut out of the water.
they're going to cut out the gag humor particularly the ones that ruin scenes, Finn and Rose won't even be in the movie and leia will be not be seen after being blown up so she'll be dead...luke will not reappear after rey leaves, not to distract kylo ren, won't die, no awful yoda scene...
much better movie.
You could probably cut it down to 45-55 minutes and just roll it into TFA, since this was pretty much TFA part 2.
Leave Finn in a coma and completely ignore the Resistance chase subplot. Just have them hiding out in the mining base at the end of the movie the entire time.
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:59 am to LSU Coyote
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n a 3rd viewing of TLJ
We tried a 2nd viewing and we both fell asleep.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:59 am to craigbiggio
not even leave him in a coma...just leave him out of the movie...no one is going to be upset the janitor didn't return.
should've killed his retarded fat arse in TFA and rian Johnson wouldn't have had to "give him something to do" which more than anything ruined the last jedi
should've killed his retarded fat arse in TFA and rian Johnson wouldn't have had to "give him something to do" which more than anything ruined the last jedi
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:04 am to DelU249
quote:Can we discuss how dumb that was?
"give him something to do"
The conversation with the little bugeyed alien made no sense. She gives them a single identifier for the "code breaker". They have very little time to get across the galaxy, yet somehow do it quickly enough for a janitor and a mechanic to convince the WRONG guy to come with them to a battle that's already lost to board the most dangerous being's ship to crack a code no one is sure he can break. Oh, and it's all pointless in the end anyway.
As more time passes, the more ridiculous this movie becomes.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:06 am to ell_13
I haven’t even focused on the little inconsequential things that will rival the nitpicking of the prequels
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:10 am to ell_13
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As more time passes, the more ridiculous this movie becomes.
The whole Benicio del Toro thing was retarded. Like when did he actually betray them? I'm guessing he made contact with them while they were flying there? Then why the frick were they able to infiltrate, dress as officers and get all the way to the breaker? And besides they make it seem like the evil BB droid is the one who spots them.
They didn't even try to make del Toro interesting, not even the slightest effort of backstory or motivation, does he even have a fricking name? It's pretty much "hey this is Benicio del Toro and he's a scoundrel lol"
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:14 am to Red5LSU
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Also, do we know who Yoda's, Obi-Wan's, Windu's or any other powerful Jedi's parents were?
You know damn well that everyone on Earth wants to know where Rey came from, and it in no way compares to knowing who Yoda's parents are.
I honestly dont' care if she came from no one, that is not the problem with this movie.
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Snoke's backstory is not important. Did we know The Emperor's backstory in ESB and ROTJ?
No we didn't, but then we got 3 movies that did show that back story in detail. And while those movies were full of bad acting, stupid lines, and silly CGI, they still told a story that we wanted to see and that we liked, and one that made sense with the previous knowledge we had of the Star Wars world.
This movie that just came out, has a lot of backstory, 7 movies worth of back story. The audience is very knowledgeable of the jedi, the sith, the force, and the characters. When you do things that pretend like your audience should forget the first 6 movies ever existed, and those 6, well 3, are some of the most revered movies of all time, you're going to have a problem with that fanbase.
Everyone talks about how awesome the fight was with Kylo/Rey against the red guys. That was the second stupidest fight in all of Star Wars if you ask me.
You came out in TFA and showed Kylo do something no one had ever seen before, stop a gun shot in mid air. Then you show him pulling thoughts from peoples head. You've built him up as an extremely powerful force user, one could say more powerful than anyone we've seen on screen before, which is stupid by the way, but whatever. So you show us how powerful he is, but it takes him 5 minutes to take out 8 guards who have no knowledge of the force? give me a fricking break. he should have force grabbed everyone of them in the first 5 seconds and killed them all, just like Vadar did at the end of Rogue one. Same goes for the stupid fight between Kylo and Finn in TFA. Is Kylo powerful or not. You show me he is, then you show me he isn't. He's powerful enough to kill Snoke, but takes 5 minutes to kill 8 random dudes, and he had help.
And the Rey doing advanced force things with zero training is just dumb. It's something that goes against what we have already learned in the previous 6 movies. Are you going to tell me she's more naturally gifted than Anikan, b/c he didn't do anything like that before being trained. And all of this could be no big deal if we are moving on from the original movies, but these 3 movies are supposed to be part of the Star Wars saga that follows the Skywalkers, and it simply does not.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:15 am to LSU Coyote
I've decided that I'm going to go see it a 2nd time. I will admit I was a bit disappointed at the movie upon the first watch.. Though I don't understand the blind rage hate this film is getting , but to each their own opinion.
One thing I that I'll always dislike the Finn/Rose subplot regardless. With saying that though I kinda understood why it happened and that was to introduce the force sensitive slave kid.. I would imagine that was the reason for it and not to find a code breaker. I just wish it wouldn't have eaten up so much damn runtime that could have been more focused on Luke and Rey.
My biggest gripe outside of the whole Luke arch was just the sheer amount of info you had to digest in this movie.
Honestly the forced humor was meh at times but ok i get it.. The manufactured unnecessary Dern/Poe conflict was head scratching but if it was to make Poe a better leader going forward I can be on board with that.. But the needless exposition for the sake of exposition shows a lack of ability to tell a good story which I find this movie didn't do very well at.
I did hate that they killed Luke in a way they did.. From the TFA i was fully prepared to see all the main characters for the OT die. My guess is that most people seeing Luke die are just pissed that they won't get to see Luke Skywalker well..... Luke Skywalker on film and I can certainly relate to that sentiment. I really wanted to see some serious badassery from Luke before going out, but oh well I guess.
On to Snoke and Rey.. For One I could have givens two shits who Snoke was.. I for one thought he was just a place holder for Kylo to begin with and now we'll get to see an unhinged and dangerous character take the lead which is something we never got to see Vader do.
Rey on the other hand I kind of hoped she'd have had more connection, but truly it wasn't necessary and at this point there is no sense in going back. Also, we're are basing who she is based of Kylo alone if it changes it changes if not no huge deal either way.. Though it would be interesting to find that maybe her bloodline is of a old lineage or something like that..
Again I think a lot of the hate stems from the hard left turn this movie took the franchise and some of the shocking aspects brought out but it wasn't a terrible movie.. Did they take risk?...YES... Did it draw a crowd?...Yes. Will we be debating and talking about this one until Ep IX arrives.... YES.. Is the Franchise ruined... NO.. I'll just hold out hope the JJ can make Ep IX as flawless as possible and tie up everything fans still question. Also! make it so that this trilogy makes sense altogether..
One thing I that I'll always dislike the Finn/Rose subplot regardless. With saying that though I kinda understood why it happened and that was to introduce the force sensitive slave kid.. I would imagine that was the reason for it and not to find a code breaker. I just wish it wouldn't have eaten up so much damn runtime that could have been more focused on Luke and Rey.
My biggest gripe outside of the whole Luke arch was just the sheer amount of info you had to digest in this movie.
Honestly the forced humor was meh at times but ok i get it.. The manufactured unnecessary Dern/Poe conflict was head scratching but if it was to make Poe a better leader going forward I can be on board with that.. But the needless exposition for the sake of exposition shows a lack of ability to tell a good story which I find this movie didn't do very well at.
I did hate that they killed Luke in a way they did.. From the TFA i was fully prepared to see all the main characters for the OT die. My guess is that most people seeing Luke die are just pissed that they won't get to see Luke Skywalker well..... Luke Skywalker on film and I can certainly relate to that sentiment. I really wanted to see some serious badassery from Luke before going out, but oh well I guess.
On to Snoke and Rey.. For One I could have givens two shits who Snoke was.. I for one thought he was just a place holder for Kylo to begin with and now we'll get to see an unhinged and dangerous character take the lead which is something we never got to see Vader do.
Rey on the other hand I kind of hoped she'd have had more connection, but truly it wasn't necessary and at this point there is no sense in going back. Also, we're are basing who she is based of Kylo alone if it changes it changes if not no huge deal either way.. Though it would be interesting to find that maybe her bloodline is of a old lineage or something like that..
Again I think a lot of the hate stems from the hard left turn this movie took the franchise and some of the shocking aspects brought out but it wasn't a terrible movie.. Did they take risk?...YES... Did it draw a crowd?...Yes. Will we be debating and talking about this one until Ep IX arrives.... YES.. Is the Franchise ruined... NO.. I'll just hold out hope the JJ can make Ep IX as flawless as possible and tie up everything fans still question. Also! make it so that this trilogy makes sense altogether..
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:17 am to Phil A Sheo
I’ll never watch any Star Wars movie again
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:33 am to Phil A Sheo
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Though I don't understand the blind rage hate this film is getting , but to each their own opinion.
I think it’s more along the lines of how well received this movie was by the critics and how hyped the movie was going in and then finding out just how disappointing it is, you’re left wondering how the hell was this movie that we’ll received? Why was it so hyped up?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:49 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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I think it’s more along the lines of how well received this movie was by the critics and how hyped the movie was going in and then finding out just how disappointing it is, you’re left wondering how the hell was this movie that we’ll received? Why was it so hyped up?
Yeah I get that and I think the critics like it b/c it was a good movie and tried to do something fresh by changing the status quo. Or you can go by the tinfoil theory and believe Disney paid them off..
IDK.. I think Rian wanted to put his own stamp on the story and have it hotly debated about until the next episode.. He certainly accomplished both.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:52 am to LSU Coyote
Anyone else initially thought Rose was gonna be a gay character, crying over her dead asian GF?
I was briefly thinking this was Disney's way of introducing a lesbian couple into Star Wars without showing them together in a scene, as if it would be more palatable for die-hard SW fans.
Then of course, the girl turned out to be her sister, and surprisingly turned out to be jones-ing for Finn.
I was briefly thinking this was Disney's way of introducing a lesbian couple into Star Wars without showing them together in a scene, as if it would be more palatable for die-hard SW fans.
Then of course, the girl turned out to be her sister, and surprisingly turned out to be jones-ing for Finn.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:35 pm to DelU249
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there are going to be fan edits of this movie that are like 1:15 minutes long that will blow the theatrical cut out of the water.
they're going to cut out the gag humor particularly the ones that ruin scenes, Finn and Rose won't even be in the movie and leia will be not be seen after being blown up so she'll be dead...luke will not reappear after rey leaves, not to distract kylo ren, won't die, no awful yoda scene
That would make a much better movie tho wouldn't mind Luke showing up to hold Kylo off but him dying was unnecessary after that. Should have ended with him gazing at the sunset like Mark thought it would. He may really go off the deep end IRL.
Finn, Rose and that whole side plot MUST go. Is there an edit of TFA out there?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:41 pm to LSU Coyote
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3rd viewing of TLJ
you're part of the problem
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
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So you show us how powerful he is, but it takes him 5 minutes to take out 8 guards who have no knowledge of the force?
You missed that they were not just random guards. They were his fellow students from the jedi academy. This was referenced earlier.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:11 pm to Peazey
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You missed that they were not just random guards. They were his fellow students from the jedi academy. This was referenced earlier.
Where was that referenced in the movie?
and if they were his fellow students, why are they just guarding Snoke, instead of going out there and fricking shite up. where's their light sabers? Even if they were his fellow students, they obviously didn't advance to far if all they can do is guard Snoke. Given they suck at the force, he still should have force grabbed and killed them all very quickly. If Count Dooku can do it to Obi-Wan and Anikan, then Kylo could have did it to these nobodies.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:15 pm to LSU Coyote
Political agenda aside, the movie is two and a half hours long. Frick sitting in a theater for 8 hours in a weekend.
Especially that POS.
Especially that POS.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:21 pm to jg8623
who cares - it is his time and dime, so you really have no reason to criticize him at all.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:22 pm to TeddyPadillac
You're reaching really hard for critiques in a movie that isn't hard to critique. Your entire point on this is simply wrong. It is mentioned that Kylo Ren destroyed the temple, killed most of the students, but also fled with several of the students that he didn't kill. It is expected for the audience to connect these simple dots. And since when are the guards of a leader supposed to have gotten that position because they are incompetent? It's the opposite. They are usually the best soldiers. You think the Secret Service got their jobs because they weren't good enough to do anything else?
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