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re: Official WandaVision Episode 6 Thread with Special Disclaimer
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:19 pm to stateofplay
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:19 pm to stateofplay
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Why do people keep thinking they will turn Wanda into a die hard villain? I dont care what happened in comics, thats horrible character development for her to go from being a villain in Age of Ultron, turn into a hero and then straight back to a worse villain in 2021.
Disney and Feige gotta be smarter than that but maybe not
Likable villains in the MCU is pretty much the standard. Loki was loved. Even Thanos was likable. And, Wanda would be redeemable.
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:08 pm to stateofplay
I would argue Wanda wasn't even a villain in AoU, she was an adversary. Her and Pietro were manipulated and conditioned but in the end redeemed themselves and joined the good side. Long way if saying they were never really bad.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:36 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:I fully understand that point of view, but consider- everyone in Westview, besides Wanda and Vision, are playing roles.
Evan Peters character has shown absolutely zero care for his sister’s well being and actively encouraged Vision taking off on his own. Who he somehow knows is dead despite “dying” a few years before if he is who he says he is.
He is not Quicksilver from the FoX-Men universe nor Wanda’s dead brother from the MCU. He is a sentient being aware of Westview becoming the Hex and actively encourages it.
It's possible his 'role' is to be Wanda Maximoff's brother, someone who would be fully aware of Wanda's powers.
As for him calling the kids demon spawn, or him rubbing Vision the wrong way-
I dunno, I thought he was acting exactly like Charlie Sheen from Two and a Half Men.
If the kids brought him in, then they might intend him to be the 'cool uncle', "even his snoring is cool".
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:52 pm to Scoob
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It's possible his 'role' is to be Wanda Maximoff's brother, someone who would be fully aware of Wanda's powers.
The kids are fully conscious. Not in her control. Same with Peters.
I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility, but given the visual clues, the tombstone, the hand in the mirror, the “previously on” that shows Pietros death in Age of Ultron, his knowledge of Vision’s death after “the next thing I know you’re calling for me.”
I think playing the role is actually trying to fool her and I think when she sees him “dead” is something he did himself to fool her.
Also, the pendent from Agnes’ neck is gone, which she grasped for when she was “woken” up (also a ruse,imo)
He is not there with any intentions that her actual brother, the one that died in AoU would have had for her.
The casting of him as a villain is perfect if this is the case...and Marvel is near perfect in their casting(minus Larson). It throws the scent off for a few episodes as who the big bad is.
A lot of clues that point to this way...and if it’s not the case, if everything with Agnes, Dottie and Peters is on the up and up, it will be kind of a letdown, right? It’s a mystery show after all.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:07 pm to ProjectP2294
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Precedent has been set on this board with The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones that source material can = spoiler.
Maybe we need a thread dedicated to theories, then people can avoid it if they are afraid of "spoilers".
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:28 pm to Scoob
My buddy and I were just talking about the “surprise cameo”...
And considering the order this was filmed in the MCU ,In light of the release shuffle due to COVID
What If...the aerospace engineer(he’s a physicist in the comics) is Dane Whitman, aka The Black Knight , star of The Eternals, one time Avenger field leader and played by Jon fricking Snow?
That might melt the Internet
And considering the order this was filmed in the MCU ,In light of the release shuffle due to COVID
What If...the aerospace engineer(he’s a physicist in the comics) is Dane Whitman, aka The Black Knight , star of The Eternals, one time Avenger field leader and played by Jon fricking Snow?
That might melt the Internet
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:57 pm to ProjectP2294
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Precedent has been set on this board with The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones that source material can = spoiler.
And those threads were worse off for that.
Especially Walking Dead. The shows were barely like the comics.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 8:08 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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The Black Knight
Will be in DS2
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star of The Eternals,
Ehhh no.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:18 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:See, I just don't think there's going to be a "big bad" in this. It's a series on Disney+, not a big movie.
The casting of him as a villain is perfect if this is the case...and Marvel is near perfect in their casting(minus Larson). It throws the scent off for a few episodes as who the big bad is.
You have to beat the bad guy, so I don't think they're going to waste a Mephisto on something that doesn't bring in a ton of money.
On the other hand, you CAN introduce a concept or group, and make it work to set things up going forward.
We're almost certainly doing a multiverse here. It remains to be seen if it's X Men, or just the concept thereof. But if you opened a rift to the X Men universe, it doesn't have to be sealed at the end of the show.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:56 pm to Scoob
They sure have been hinting pretty hard at the Mephisto angle with the twins and all if they are not planning to at least broach him here to maybe follow up in a bigger project.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:17 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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star of The Eternals,
Ehhh no.
Trades say the story is focused around Sersei and Whitman. But who knows.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:30 pm to Scoob
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You have to beat the bad guy, so I don't think they're going to waste a Mephisto on something that doesn't bring in a ton of money.
On the other hand, you CAN introduce a concept or group, and make it work to set things up going forward.
You beat him in DSMoM or Homecoming 3 as they are said to be loose trilogy.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:45 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Do you think Marvel would introduce something essential in an exclusive streaming service?quote:
You have to beat the bad guy, so I don't think they're going to waste a Mephisto on something that doesn't bring in a ton of money.
On the other hand, you CAN introduce a concept or group, and make it work to set things up going forward.
You beat him in DSMoM or Homecoming 3 as they are said to be loose trilogy.
I guess they could, it's bound to happen sooner or later. I think we all entered this thinking the tv series would be filler, not something the entire next phase of movies would focus on.
I guess in thinking about things that way, this show might be ultimately all Wanda doing things in her stress and grief, while under the influence of Agnes (Agatha Harkness). We straighten out Wanda's head, and suitably punish Agnes... but in the final minutes we (the audience) learn Mephisto was using Agnes, and whatever Wanda did opens our reality to him.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:46 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
The "trades" say what they either 1. pull out of their arse or 2. Disney tells them. There is no third option.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:12 pm to Scoob
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Do you think Marvel would introduce something essential in an exclusive streaming service?
In what context? If they sprinkle about a dozen mutants across the shows and movies by 2023, then they can have an X-Men team set up quickly.
Falcon and Bucky are going to Madripoor by the looks of the trailers. Mutants will be there one way or the other.
So do you consider their introduction essential?
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. I think we all entered this thinking the tv series would be filler, not something the entire next phase of movies would focus on.
I didn’t. This is Feige run stuff. Not Netflix or Agents of Shield or FX or Hulu or Cloak and Dagger.
These are stories about the remaining Avengers. I considered that essential but I may be in the minority.
From what I’ve read Disney considers streaming the future of the company. So I agree it’s bound to happen.
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