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re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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andy k
this guy is the much bigger concern.
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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don't want to get ahead, but he's clearly cautious of older men and their intentions
I agree did not notice it the first time around. The second time it very clear what his problem is
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:45 am to Ace Midnight
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I thought it was very adroit - get his foes beefing with each other, and he can play the "honest" broker in between. He figured worst case one would kill the other and he could focus on one problem child at a time.
Yeah, maybe so. But in the past, when Omar has been used as sort of a pawn, the truth came out. And Joe knows that. So that's a dangerous play if that was his intention.
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adroit
I have a pretty good vocabulary, and I had to look that one up. Nice work.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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wasn't just clay. andy k (not spelling his last name) also got served
Yeah, I only listed Clay b/c he's the only one I remember bitching to Royce about it. But as much big of a donor as Andy K was supposed to have been, you know fa sho he also bitched to Royce.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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the subpoenas. lester tried to play games to frick with politicians and political contributors and rawls one-upped him
lester went rogue, fricked with his bosses boss (royce), and the unit had to get got. "no more surprises"
Yeah, that's true. I wasn't think about the subpoenas. I think you're right about that, thanks.
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don't want to get ahead, but he's clearly cautious of older men and their intentions
Feel free to get ahead. At this point, I don't think there are many, if any, people left watching outside of us few. And I seriously doubt any newcomers are participating...if they are then they're certainly not posting in the thread.
And I know what you're talking about because of his stepdad (or whatever), but that doesn't seem to line up with someone like Marlo. I'm not sure Michael would equate the two. I just think he's a weird dude, and it kinda seems like they didn't know what to do with him or how to write him. Like I said, I remember that later in the season his transition felt really forced to me at first watch.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:59 am to CocomoLSU
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And I know what you're talking about because of his stepdad (or whatever), but that doesn't seem to line up with someone like Marlo. I'm not sure Michael would equate the two.
i think it is 2 situations. he doesn't want to be part of the "street" and he does this so his brother REALLY doesn't have to do it
that's why he rejects marlo (and why marlo respects him afterwards, b/c he could see mike was legit hard "in his eyes")
now cutty? that's the implication that mike was molested. this comes up over and over, and chris parlow was molested, too, which is why he takes to mike and why he REALLY goes overboard when they kill that guy (exclamation point being your gf snoop's comments). i can't remember exactly, but i think mike has another run-in with cutty this season and he may call him an f-word or imply it
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Hmmm, I don't remember much about the situation you're talking about. I'll be sure to be on the lookout for that.
I do remember Chris Partlow taking a liking to Michael at some point, but didn't remember it being sort of bonding because of similar pasts though.
And I do agree that a lot of Michael's actions and decisions are because of Bug though. It's cool to watch him take care of him (and sad that his parents don't).
I do remember Chris Partlow taking a liking to Michael at some point, but didn't remember it being sort of bonding because of similar pasts though.
And I do agree that a lot of Michael's actions and decisions are because of Bug though. It's cool to watch him take care of him (and sad that his parents don't).
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:36 pm to CocomoLSU
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I don't remember much about the situation you're talking about. I'll be sure to be on the lookout for that.
it's subtle, but it's heavily implied
watch chris's reaction when he has the dad killed and chris's reaction when he kills the guy. it's over the top and not for show
hell that murder is what gets chris locked up. it's completely out of the behavioral patterns of season 4 for chris
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And I do agree that a lot of Michael's actions and decisions are because of Bug though. It's cool to watch him take care of him (and sad that his parents don't).
i think he has his dad killed (and "sells his soul") because he's worried about his dad molesting bug more than anything else
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Got a lil bored at work and watched all the way to 9.
But Slow is right, its pretty implied Michael was abused.
He even had a convo with Dukie and Randy prior to getting with Chris about people who could help him. Ie Cutty, Prez, social services. Said Cutty was too friendly lol
But Slow is right, its pretty implied Michael was abused.
He even had a convo with Dukie and Randy prior to getting with Chris about people who could help him. Ie Cutty, Prez, social services. Said Cutty was too friendly lol
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think he has his dad killed (and "sells his soul") because he's worried about his dad molesting bug more than anything else
I don't think this cat is Michael's dad - maybe Bug's dad (heck, probably Bug's dad), but this is a ne'er do well "step" situation. Whether he was in jail or otherwise out of pocket, when the stepfather came back, Michael was obviously upset with mom for letting him come back. He is far more worried for Bug, too. That's clear. He's confident ole boy will leave him alone, but Bug is about the right age for the abuse to begin.
And that's what got the upstanding citizen killed. It is all but confirmed that Chris experienced similar abuse from a male authority figure. When he uncorked that was deeply personal. As ruthless a killer that Partlow was, this scene ironically humanized him the most. For a moment, you could understand how he ended up on the path he was on.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 10:54 am to Ace Midnight
I don't think this cat is Michael's dad - maybe Bug's dad (heck, probably Bug's dad)
Definitely Bugs dad.
Killing the step-dad was personal for Chris. He even mentions it while beating that dude to a pulp.
Definitely Bugs dad.
Killing the step-dad was personal for Chris. He even mentions it while beating that dude to a pulp.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:56 am to LUS Tiger in FL
chris is completely unemotional about his killings. it what he has in common with weebay. He most certainly air his frustrations out on Michael's stepdad. He also knew without Michael telling him
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:55 pm to jamsmiley
OP is updated. Just realized I never did it Monday (no idea why not...I was at work all day).
Man, Dukie just keeps getting more and more sad. Definitely can see his path degrading into even worse circumstances. I forget when we see him turn though.
Prez making progress in class.
Man, Chris is so fricking cold. frick. Dude just gives no fricks at all.
Prop Joe is a smooth motherfricker. He tipped Omar on the card game, and now has Marlo thinking he has inside info on what happened and is using that to get him into the co-op. How does he have the subpoenas though?
Bay's ole lady getting cut off. Good. frick her. And frick that bitch Namond too. I hate the mom almost as much as I hate Namond. And what kind of shitty parent are you to basically make your son get into the drug game. I don't care who his father is, that's fricked up.
Carcetti making ALL kinds of moves. Dude is putting in serious work.
Bey chilling on a cell phone. In prison.
Bodie telling Namond his mom is a "dragon lady" is awesome. And telling him that it gives him insight on why Namond is how he is. frick, I love Bodie Broadus.
Clay Davis takes 20 large from Carcetti's people, then turns around and goes to Royce for more money. And THEN that mothercucker brags about it to their face that he let them off easy and could've gotten twice as much. Holy shite, this dude's balls never cease to amaze me. He's out-in-the-open dirty and just doesn't give a single frick about it.
Omar ready to throw down, and it's Butchie's people.
That was awesome.
I feel like not much happens so far in S4 to move the overall story along, but I'll be damned if it's not captivating television all the same.
Man, Dukie just keeps getting more and more sad. Definitely can see his path degrading into even worse circumstances. I forget when we see him turn though.
Prez making progress in class.
Man, Chris is so fricking cold. frick. Dude just gives no fricks at all.
Prop Joe is a smooth motherfricker. He tipped Omar on the card game, and now has Marlo thinking he has inside info on what happened and is using that to get him into the co-op. How does he have the subpoenas though?
Bay's ole lady getting cut off. Good. frick her. And frick that bitch Namond too. I hate the mom almost as much as I hate Namond. And what kind of shitty parent are you to basically make your son get into the drug game. I don't care who his father is, that's fricked up.
Carcetti making ALL kinds of moves. Dude is putting in serious work.
Bey chilling on a cell phone. In prison.
Bodie telling Namond his mom is a "dragon lady" is awesome. And telling him that it gives him insight on why Namond is how he is. frick, I love Bodie Broadus.
Clay Davis takes 20 large from Carcetti's people, then turns around and goes to Royce for more money. And THEN that mothercucker brags about it to their face that he let them off easy and could've gotten twice as much. Holy shite, this dude's balls never cease to amaze me. He's out-in-the-open dirty and just doesn't give a single frick about it.
Omar ready to throw down, and it's Butchie's people.
That was awesome. I feel like not much happens so far in S4 to move the overall story along, but I'll be damned if it's not captivating television all the same.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:26 pm to CocomoLSU
season 4 is my favorite season. I'm interested in everything that's going on.
didn't remember the election lasting this long.
It's good to have friends like donut when you lock your keys in your car
randy should have stayed silent about his part with the girl in the bathroom. the assistant principle had no evidence.
Herc got played by Marlo. No way they would be talking directly into the camera like that
I don't understand how Cutty thought his behavior with the boys parents was acceptable
One of these days I want to go to Baltimore and eat this Lake trout they always eating
didn't remember the election lasting this long.
It's good to have friends like donut when you lock your keys in your car
randy should have stayed silent about his part with the girl in the bathroom. the assistant principle had no evidence.
Herc got played by Marlo. No way they would be talking directly into the camera like that
I don't understand how Cutty thought his behavior with the boys parents was acceptable
One of these days I want to go to Baltimore and eat this Lake trout they always eating
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:50 pm to CocomoLSU
Clay Davis, the ultimate scumbag. 
Posted on 5/12/16 at 5:32 pm to CocomoLSU
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How does he have the subpoenas though?
he's got an inside man. (spoilers)
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He tipped Omar on the card game, and now has Marlo thinking he has inside info on what happened and is using that to get him into the co-op.
he also got a cut from Omar's take
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Clay Davis takes 20 large from Carcetti's people, then turns around and goes to Royce for more money. And THEN that mothercucker brags about it to their face that he let them off easy and could've gotten twice as much. Holy shite, this dude's balls never cease to amaze me. He's out-in-the-open dirty and just doesn't give a single frick about it.
it makes the stuff in season 5 that much sweeter
Rawls making moves always cracks me up. he's so competent and such an idiot at the same time
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I feel like not much happens so far in S4 to move the overall story along,
i was actually going to bump the thread to talk about these episodes but i didn't have THAT much to say b/c of this
Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:37 am to CocomoLSU
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I feel like not much happens so far in S4 to move the overall story along, but I'll be damned if it's not captivating television all the same.
I was behind and watched 3-6 this weekend, it's a great season, but you are right, not a lot of good discussion type stuff so far.
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Bodie telling Namond his mom is a "dragon lady" is awesome. And telling him that it gives him insight on why Namond is how he is. frick, I love Bodie Broadus
holy crap this was so awesome. The first time i watched, i didn't want to like Bodie because of Wallace, but man, i love this dude the 2nd go round, he's moved way up on my favorite characters list. But yeah, Namond's mom is a huge count, she's not even good looking, couldn't Bey have done better? I do feel sorry for Namond, he's a little bitch, but as Bodie says, we know why. I had forgotten Brianna cut them off, but it was brilliant the way she put that count in her place and Bey even says Brianna is right, while he is smooth chillin in jail
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Clay Davis takes 20 large from Carcetti's people, then turns around and goes to Royce for more money. And THEN that motherfricker brags about it to their face that he let them off easy and could've gotten twice as much.
Dude was scamming a KNOWN drug dealer for 250K, he is straight OG.
With Marrimow now running Major crimes, they are back to usual, busting street level guys. Sad how these cops don't care. Herc is such a douche, was he not paying attention before? He thinks Marlo will get near a package smh. Marlo sets the cops up at the train station, reminds me of Heat were DeNiro's crew outs the cops and the cops on Marlo are not near Al Pacino.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:43 am to H-Town Tiger
as for the 2 new eps
fricking herc. always fricking shite up. but it's funny that what is going to get him in shite is a camera. for all the complaints about brutality and overall ridiculousness of his arc, he's going to go down for trying actual police work and just not filling out forms correctly to check out a camera.
michael's step father is back. conflict: engaged
these episodes did a good job of talking about education in general. if you can relate learning to something the kids care about, they will actually engage. you just get to see this on 2 different levels (dice with the regular kids and straight up drug talk with the bad kids).
bubbles' story is sad. however, his run-in with prez was hilarious
carcetti realizing what the police do is almost like watching a character in a horror movie realize they're being hunted. layers of shite upon shite
fricking herc. always fricking shite up. but it's funny that what is going to get him in shite is a camera. for all the complaints about brutality and overall ridiculousness of his arc, he's going to go down for trying actual police work and just not filling out forms correctly to check out a camera.
michael's step father is back. conflict: engaged
these episodes did a good job of talking about education in general. if you can relate learning to something the kids care about, they will actually engage. you just get to see this on 2 different levels (dice with the regular kids and straight up drug talk with the bad kids).
bubbles' story is sad. however, his run-in with prez was hilarious
carcetti realizing what the police do is almost like watching a character in a horror movie realize they're being hunted. layers of shite upon shite
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you can relate learning to something the kids care about, they will actually engage.
The show also does a great job of how school systems shite all over that concept.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:07 pm to Wally Sparks
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The show also does a great job of how school systems shite all over that concept.
I've said many times in this thread already, but no show or movie i can think of has ever shown the nature of bureaucracies and politics like The Wire. That David Simon remains a committed prog and has openly expressed disdain for more libertarian ideas is mind blowing to me.
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