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re: Official The Walking Dead S05E14 "Spend" NO COMICS

Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:08 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:08 am to
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I don't get Gabriel turning on the group at all. I thought the whole point of him sneaking out of the church and coming across the cannibal camp was him realizing the people that were butchered in the church were the bad ones.

So this piece of shite who let his own congregation get ripped to shreds while he refused to unlock the doors is now turning on a group that has saved his arse twice? I hope they feed him and that pussy Nicholas to the walkers.


I think they're just going out of their way to make the only Christian character out to be a coward, and an overall bad guy.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:10 am to
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I think they're just going out of their way to make the only Christian character out to be a coward, and an overall bad guy.



The war continues. Life is hard. Prayers sent.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:14 am to
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They did, but Nicholas panicked and forced the door open on his side which allowed the walkers to grab Noah.

No, you're not understanding what I'm saying.

There are four "sides" (cells?) to a revolving door. The cell that "touches" outside, the cell that "touches" inside, and then the two other cells (that they were stuck in). Basically, when you're "stuck" in the door and facing the center of the door, the cell(s) wall behind you is what I'm talking about. There were walkers at the door inside the building and walkers at the door outside the building. That still left two cell sides unattended by walkers. Those are the two sides I am talking about. Just bust/shoot through the glass and run away.

Obviously once Eugene draws the outside walkers away, the plan should be to bust out the front glass and get out that way (like Glenn was doing).

Maybe I am explaining it poorly...let me try to draw it:



They are stuck in the revolving door, with walkers on both sides (the inside and outside cells). But there are still two other sides to that. And all three of them had weapons. Like I said, once Eugene arrives and draws the outside walkers away, then you bust out like Glenn was trying to do, but before that happens, just bust your way out of the two sides free of walkers.

And it doesn't really matter a whole bunch, it's just something I was thinking while watching last night and thinking about how they could all three get out of that situation without sacrificing opening one of their cells to the walkers.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:15 am to
Kirkman doesn't let his politics get in the way of his writing often, but I'm not sure how else you explain Gabriel's character.

ETA: Truly, nothing the character does makes sense.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:19 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:17 am to
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I agree with what was already said earlier, Deanna will realize it too late. Everyone in Rick's group has a position of power.

She already realizes it though. She said something to Maggie last night about how making Abraham leader of construction is yet another position of power that she will have given to the group.

She definitely sees it already, but there's not much she can do IMO because it seems like her group is so stupid and incompetent most of the time, so it's nice to have people in positions of power that actually know how to handle things.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:17 am to
Props on that image.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65754 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:17 am to
I think that's a good idea and would be the best option if nothing else presented itself, but don't you think they'd have to fire weapons to exit the revolving door that way? Wouldn't that draw the walkers around to the sides?
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:19 am to
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CocomoLSU
Oh, okay, no I wasn't understanding what you were saying. I thought that the door they were in looked more like this one:



without sides like you drew. But I wasn't looking closely and I may have just assumed.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:21 am to
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I don't get Gabriel turning on the group at all.
There seems to be no advantage at all. In fact, it will only put him more at risk.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:22 am to
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don't you think they'd have to fire weapons to exit the revolving door that way? Wouldn't that draw the walkers around to the sides?

The walkers already were focused on them, and coming at them from the two sides (at least that's what it seemed like). So I'm not sure firing the weapons would've changed their intent. And even if it did, it would only take seconds to get out once you busted the windows, so you could easily push or outrun them quickly.

Like I said, I was just thinking about ways I'd try to get out last night while watching them.


And part of me was hoping that Glenn would've just capped Nicholas's arse in the parking lot.
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:23 am to
Here's a gif of the door from the show:



And a picture:



I'm not sure that it had sides like you were thinking.

Either way though, no big deal.

Fantastic episode.

ETA:
And I 100% agree with you on this:
quote:

And part of me was hoping that Glenn would've just capped Nicholas's arse in the parking lot.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:25 am
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:23 am to
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only Christian character out to be a coward, and an overall bad guy.

Gabriel is a pretender, not a very good Christian. He gave himself self away when he was "ratting out" on Rick and company, when he spoke about Satan disguising himself as an angel of light. First: Gabriel is an angelic name. And dressed as clergy, he has the outward appearance of being a Christian, but not backed up by his actions. He is, at best, a tool of the devil.



Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65754 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:25 am to
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There seems to be no advantage at all. In fact, it will only put him more at risk.


He can't possibly think anything Rick's group has done around him is worse than what he did to his congregation, AND they kept him safe and transported him to a safe place where he can live a supposedly long life. It makes no sense for him to "out" them to Deanna.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:25 am to
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Oh, okay, no I wasn't understanding what you were saying. I thought that the door they were in looked more like this one:

quote:

without sides like you drew. But I wasn't looking closely and I may have just assumed.

It could've been, although the one you posted only has three cells to it, while the one last night definitely had four.

And looking at your pic now, I wonder how feasible going up and out would be..

It's fun thinking about shite like that and trying to analyze different things I'd try in those situations when I watch.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65754 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:28 am to
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Gabriel is a pretender, not a very good Christian. He gave himself self away when he was "ratting out" on Rick and company, when he spoke about Satan disguising himself as an angel of light. First: Gabriel is an angelic name. And dressed as clergy, he has the outward appearance of being a Christian, but not backed up by his actions. He is, at best, a tool of the devil.


I agree 100%. He's certainly a hypocrite if he's calling out anyone else while letting his own sins go untouched.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65754 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:30 am to
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And part of me was hoping that Glenn would've just capped Nicholas's arse in the parking lot.


I think this would have been a bad idea. If they came back without any of Alexandria's people to back up their story of how the mayor's kid died that would have certainly opened a powder keg with their new community.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50399 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:31 am to
For the shoot their way out of the glass crowd, there was a lot of noise so it may have been tough to hear, but Glenn yelled out that he and Noah had the guns while other guy had the ammo.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:32 am to
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Still no idea why Carol is such a dick to that kid.


She lost her daughter, saw her as a zombie, then popped in the head.

Looked after those girls from prison, and loved them, and ended up capping the one herself because she was batt shite crazy.

She doesn't want to let herself get close. She's protecting her feelings.

I see her as real hardcore now. She's like a complete undercover badass behind the sweater and plate of cookies.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156554 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:32 am to
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I'm not sure that it had sides like you were thinking.

Potentially not, but even if the gif it looks like there is an open spot behind Nicholas that has maybe one walker at best. Even if it isn't free and clear, it's a more viable alternative than the main two sides.

I assume that still pic is from when Noah was taken and eaten.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156554 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:34 am to
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Gabriel is a pretender, not a very good Christian. He gave himself self away when he was "ratting out" on Rick and company, when he spoke about Satan disguising himself as an angel of light. First: Gabriel is an angelic name. And dressed as clergy, he has the outward appearance of being a Christian, but not backed up by his actions. He is, at best, a tool of the devil.

Agreed. And I'm still not even sure that he's a legit priest. I'd love to get some backstory on the show about his past.

Also, hopefully we'll get at least some sort of update on Morgan and his whereabouts in these last two episodes...that seems to be something they sort of forget about a lot of times...or maybe even just throw in for the fans (and have nothing planned for it).
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