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re: Official The Last Jedi Synopsis/Discussion (Warning: Spoilers)

Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:56 pm to
I think more than anything with the story/performances, the humor is forced at some points. It was almost like Marvel. I think that was probably my biggest gripe. It just threw the tone off a bit.
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:58 pm to
After leaving the theater my friends all agreed that this entire movie could have been solved if women were better communicators rather than assuming we could read their minds.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:59 pm to
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Since Empire Strikes Back


What ship was cloaked? Attaching yourself to another ship and powering down is not cloaking.
Posted by AA7
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:01 pm to
When they say the line “no ship that small has a cloaking device”

They are also in the animated series quite a good bit, but I was trying to stick to what the casual fans will be familiar with.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:04 pm to
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no ship that small has a cloaking device


Easy to forget one throwaway line, we never see it happen and in this one they did a bad job of explaining the plan bc I walked out of the theatre thinking the FO just wasn't scanning for small ships.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by LSUfan389
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:08 pm to
I feel conflicted because I think it was a good movie

two biggest letdowns for me:

Rey’s parents being nobodies - when kylo was telling Rey, I really thought he was going to reaveal they were brother and sister

No background on Snoke, and they killed him off so quick. Would have been more epic with Rey and kylo actually fighting snoke



Posted by Salamander_Wilson
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:10 pm to
Why are there 2 threads?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:11 pm to
I can understand making Rey's parents nobodies as did we really need another big familial reveal in a Star Wars movie? And it fits with some of the larger themes they were going for here.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:13 pm to
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The light speed jump through a ship that somehow killed no major characters was a huge narrative convenience

That ship is supposed to be something like 60 km wide, I think it’s very easy to accept that it missed the 6 named characters that were aboard
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 pm to
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am I taking crazy pills or did they just flat out start callling the resistance the rebels halfway through the movie??

Yes, yes they did. It felt like the Rush Hour credits gag reel, where Chris Tucker keeps saying Jackie instead of Lee
Posted by AA7
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:22 pm to
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am I taking crazy pills or did they just flat out start callling the resistance the rebels halfway through the movie??

That’s a good point. I wonder if it was just Kylo/First Order that called them rebels because I remember the scene with the kids in the stalls they said resistance.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:36 pm to
Finn calls himself a rebel at one point.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:37 pm
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:23 am to
There are few people who are bigger Star Wars fans than I am, and I disliked way more about this movie than I liked. I'm now terrified that Johnson is going to be the one to develop the next trilogy.

From the silly slapstick of Luke throwing his lightsaber off the cliff to milking some alien, they were way too busy trying to squeeze in every comedic moment possible. The whole damn Finn - Rose arc was pointless and nothing but a time filler. Wasting characters like Phasma and Snoke to wasting actors like Del Toro on a silly stuttering character. No one wanting to tell Poe the plan for some reason other than if they did he wouldn't have a role in the movie. Clearly Johnson didn't have a good answer for Snoke's backstory or Rey's parents so he just ignored one and gave the generic answer to the other. The Knights of Ren obviously got shitcanned after the first movie. The whole fricking stupid plot of lets just follow their ships until they run out of fuel, as if it was some Nascar race decide by fuel mileage. Sigh.

Don't get me started on Kylo, the immature emo kid, now being the leader of the First Order. Does anyone think that with Kylo and Hux in charge they'd be intelligent and clever enough to lead the First Order to success? No, you need a mastermind like Palpatine or Snoke...someone wise and experienced. I now know why Mark Hamill initially did not like the direction of the movie to start with. He was 100% right.

/venting off
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 1:03 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:49 am to
Anyone else think that Luke is far more powerful now that he's dead?

If Yoda was able to cause lightning to come from the sky and destroy the tree as well as physically interact with Luke as a force ghost, what can Luke do?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:57 pm to
So the grandson of the force is dead? They have literally just killed off all interest from their true fan base
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:01 pm to
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If Yoda was able to cause lightning to come from the sky and destroy the tree as well as physically interact with Luke as a force ghost, what can Luke do?


Luke can remove all tension from the rest of the movies because now there is an all-powerful force around them that can do pretty anything at anytime to get anyone out of any situation

that’s why the Yoda lightning scene was stupid.

Where the FRICK was that when Luke needed it at the end of ROTJ or when Ben Solo was burning down the temple or when the star killer was about to fire or....never mind. You get the point. That was going full retard.
Posted by cupchu1
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Luke can remove all tension from the rest of the movies because now there is an all-powerful force around them that can do pretty anything at anytime to get anyone out of any situation

that’s why the Yoda lightning scene was stupid.

Where the FRICK was that when Luke needed it at the end of ROTJ or when Ben Solo was burning down the temple or when the star killer was about to fire or....never mind. You get the point. That was going full retard.


Maybe it had something to do with being on an island that is obviously incredibly connected to the Force.
Posted by cupchu1
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:39 pm to
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After leaving the theater my friends all agreed that this entire movie could have been solved if women were better communicators rather than assuming we could read their minds.


Holdo definitely suffered from this affliction. Not sure if it’s a writing flaw or a character flaw. For instance, in another wildly popular series called Game of Thrones, one of the belligerents in the main war (Robb Stark) would have won a major victory over his top rival (Tywin Lannister) if he would have told his plan to his subordinate, Edmure Tully. He didn’t, Edmure “won” a battle on the fords, and their enemies were able to take control of the war. But that wasn’t bad writing, that was good writing for a flawed character.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:36 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 4:28 pm to
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Luke can remove all tension from the rest of the movies because now there is an all-powerful force around them that can do pretty anything at anytime to get anyone out of any situation

that’s why the Yoda lightning scene was stupid.

Where the FRICK was that when Luke needed it at the end of ROTJ or when Ben Solo was burning down the temple or when the star killer was about to fire or....never mind. You get the point. That was going full retard.

Being that he's grandson of the force, I'm willing to bet that he's going to be a tad bit more powerful than the rest only to be topped by son of the force, Anakin. I'm willing to bet that both son and grandson of the force play a significant role in episode IX
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