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re: Official "Inception" Thread (***SPOILERS***)
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:22 am to jrowla2
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:22 am to jrowla2
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The old chinese man and young Leo, what was going on there, why was he washed up on the beach, still young and why was the chinese guy really old?
It all has to do with what level you actually died in. Leo drowned in the 1st level when the Chinese man died in the hospital in level 3. Therefore what seemed like 10 minutes in level 1 was many, many years to the Asian in level 3 in limbo.
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Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:25 am to Enigma
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It all has to do with what level you actually died in. Leo drowned in the 1st level when the Chinese man died in the hospital in level 3. Therefore what seemed like 10 minutes in level 1 was many, many years to the Asian in level 3 in limbo.
But Dom had already been in limbo for some time before Saito died in level 3.
Your post would assume that even after Dom said, "Here's here somewhere, I have to stay and find him", he somehow gets kicked back out of limbo, then re-enters limbo at a later time. Why would he be kicked out of limbo? For dying in level 3 and level 2, but then would re-enter by dying in level 1...?
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:27 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:30 am to Cs
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After reading that he thinks Dom is in a perpetual sleep, just like the "guys in the dream room" (which aren't...), I decided save myself time by not reading any more of his posts.
Ok buddy. Yes, your theories are air tight too. "The repetition of his words as he grabbed for the gun, clearly mean that he pulled the trigger."
Got it.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:34 am to Freauxzen
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Ok buddy. Yes, your theories are air tight too.
"The repetition of his words as he grabbed for the gun, clearly mean that he pulled the trigger."
Got it.
The line of his I quoted is completely inaccurate, as the older guys in the dream room weren't in a perpetual sleep, they only went there for 3 hours a day to dream.
I wasn't criticizing his interpretation, I was criticizing the fact that he is basing it off inaccurate information that he thought was in the film.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:37 am to Cs
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Your post would assume that even after Dom said, "Here's here somewhere, I have to stay and find him", he somehow gets kicked back out of limbo, then re-enters limbo at a later time. Why would he be kicked out of limbo? For dying in level 3 and level 2, but then would re-enter by dying in level 1...?
Yes!
How else do you explain the aging difference btw the two?
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:40 am to Enigma
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Yes!
How else do you explain the aging difference btw the two?
But, why would he not have re-entered limbo by dying in level 3? Or level 2?
I think the fact that he had been in limbo previously, and that he entered there intentionally is why he does not age himself. He knew it wasn't real - we saw him overcome that already with Mal.
Saito, on the other hand, became lost, and accepted it as his reality.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:41 am to Cs
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The line of his I quoted is completely inaccurate, as the older guys in the dream room weren't in a perpetual sleep, they only went there for 3 hours a day to dream.
So he made a mistake about a film he had seen a few days prior. Hardly a reason to insult him and ignore his posts. Baloo is one of the best posters on here, regardless of his admin status.
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I wasn't criticizing his interpretation, I was criticizing the fact that he is basing it off inaccurate information that he thought was in the film.
Criticizing isn't stating that you devalue his posts enough to never read them again. That's a straight up insult.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:43 am to Freauxzen
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So he made a mistake about a film he had seen a few days prior. Hardly a reason to insult him and ignore his posts.
Which served as part of the foundation for his theory.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:45 am to Cs
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Which served as part of the foundation for his theory.
EVERYONE's theory is on shaky ground. So one aspect was a mistake. I'm sure that one mistake caused his entire theory to fall apart. Oh wait, it didn't.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:47 am to Freauxzen
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"The repetition of his words as he grabbed for the gun, clearly mean that he pulled the trigger."
What page did you find this quote of mine on?
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:48 am to Cs
quote:this was my interpretation of the aging
I think the fact that he had been in limbo previously, and that he entered there intentionally is why he does not age himself. He knew it wasn't real - we saw him overcome that already with Mal. Saito, on the other hand, became lost, and accepted it as his reality.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:50 am to Cs
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What page did you find this quote of mine on?
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I think the emphasis of that line, along with Saito reaching for the gun at the same time Dom was chanting those lines, is firm evidence that they shoot themselves
Funny thing is, you call it "firm evidence." That's about a big a leap as you can take seeing as chanting lines and reaching for a gun have no bearing whether or not someone would pull a trigger. Like I said, if you take the reality stance, at least justify it with things we know, not things that we obviously don't know.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:56 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:52 am to Freauxzen
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EVERYONE's theory is on shaky ground. So one aspect was a mistake. I'm sure that one mistake caused his entire theory to fall apart. Oh wait, it didn't.
No, it doesn't. But, he believed that the first plane sequence was reality, and from then on out, everything is a dream, with Dom ultimately being reduced to a vegetative state while dreaming happily until his death.
He believes Miles and Ariadne were in collusion and plotted this. Why would Miles want to see Dom end up like this? Practically dead? Why was Ariadne needed to design the level, if it is based mostly of his memories? If it's a closed dream, how do any of them know he would eventually access this dream? If it's a shared dream with someone else, who is the host? Why doesn't Dom notice them?
Why do we have a character who overcame the deepest layer of his subconscious suddenly find himself lost forever in a far more superficial dream?
There are so many variables that he hasn't, or won't, address.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:53 am to Freauxzen
Am I the only person who hasn't seen Inception yet?
I still need to wait a few more weeks for the crowds to die down before I can go see it.
I still need to wait a few more weeks for the crowds to die down before I can go see it.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:53 am to Freauxzen
No, I found this, I posted it on page 18.
I'm asking about this line,
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I think the emphasis of that line, along with Saito reaching for the gun at the same time Dom was chanting those lines, is firm evidence that they shoot themselves
I'm asking about this line,
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"The repetition of his words as he grabbed for the gun, clearly mean that he pulled the trigger."
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:56 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:58 am to Cs
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I'm asking about this line,
It's called a paraphrase. That's basically what the first line means.
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I think the emphasis of that line, along with Saito reaching for the gun at the same time Dom was chanting those lines, is firm evidence that they shoot themselves
Bold = repetition and/or seriousness
Italics = "grabbed for the gun"
underline = clearly
shoot themselves = pull the trigger
It's not rocket science.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 11:02 am to Freauxzen
But when you put it in quotations, it's called misquoting someone.
"I think this is firm evidence for...", is just a tad different that "this clearly means".
"I think this is firm evidence for...", is just a tad different that "this clearly means".
Posted on 7/21/10 at 11:04 am to constant cough
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I still need to wait a few more weeks for the crowds to die down before I can go see it.
It shouldn't be bad on weeknights.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 11:08 am to Cs
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But when you put it in quotations, it's called misquoting someone.
This is quoting:
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blah blah blah
It wasn't a direct quote obviously, sorry I didn't say...You said....blah blah blah. Really arguing about this?
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"I think this is firm evidence for...", is just a tad different that "this clearly means".
Semantics? Really?
Posted on 7/21/10 at 11:09 am to Cs
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It shouldn't be bad on weeknights.
You'd be surprised. My friends talked me into going watch Predators last Tuesday at 7pm and it was packed. Which only reminded me of how much I hate crowded theaters.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 11:10 am
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