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re: Official Hobbit The Desolation of Smaug Review Thread (spoilers)

Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by RceTigers
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/17/13 at 9:14 pm to
Game of thrones wishes it could have a dragon half of what Smaug was
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22159 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:28 am to
Balerion is a bad MF though.
Posted by TigerTree
Member since Nov 2005
4756 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 1:49 pm to
What is the count now after 2 movies on how many times the group of dwarves has been captured?

1) Trolls
2) Goblins
3) Spiders
4) Elves
5) Laketown

Am I missing any other captures?


Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:43 am to
yeah, they can't stay out of trouble

I enjoyed the movie after seeing it tonight. Smaug was probably the best done dragon I've seen in the theater to date. I do wish Jackson would take a hint from Game of Thrones and realize drama increases when major characters die. I know that would require additional deviation from the book but it was well done generally when he did just that. For example, I like Jackson's liberties with respect to the men of the lake the the black arrow myth. It was pretty funny after a few seconds to realize the bad guy in laketown was none other than Stephen Fry.

It was an enjoyable movie experience overall and better in the theater than I expect it would be on the smaller screen.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

I do wish Jackson would take a hint from Game of Thrones and realize drama increases when major characters die. I know that would require additional deviation from the book


Actually, no it wouldn't.

But I don't want to spoil it.
Posted by RyseofRome
Member since Jul 2013
699 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:11 pm to
Just got back from Hobbit in IMAX 3d. I really liked, great story( Jackson made it more complex). humor, action, characters, and smaug was badass. I liked tauriel( she was hot). I also liked the different plotlines and how each of the dwarves had a distinct personality. We also got to see how normal people live in middle-earth and there ARE BLACK PEOPLE!! Loved the reference to Gimli too.
Posted by WhoDats10
Member since Dec 2012
1580 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:15 pm to
Smaug was exactly how I pictured him . His voice was badass.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:22 pm to
Agreed. Best part of the movie.
Posted by WhoDats10
Member since Dec 2012
1580 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:45 pm to
Its also nice to know that there are dwarf women .
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

WhoDats10


You're still let out of the house?
Posted by WhoDats10
Member since Dec 2012
1580 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:57 pm to
my friend took me. Parents gave my sister my car. its officially hers now.
Posted by RyseofRome
Member since Jul 2013
699 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:02 pm to
Tauriel was fiya
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

my friend took me. Parents gave my sister my car. its officially hers now.


Well that blows. If it makes you feel better I had a frick-up semester to where my parents revoked a semester abroad to New Zealand. Granted I never came close to getting kicked out, but it still sucked that I wasn't going to smoke weed in the Shire and climb the Misty Mountains for a semester.
Posted by Jazzbass13
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
1338 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:10 pm to
I liked the elf/dwarf love story. And to be honest the star wars prequels have some good scenes too.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:17 pm to
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Actually, no it wouldn't.

But I don't want to spoil it.



I know there's something coming but the escapes from spiders, stone giants etc should have already lost at least one companion.

It is fantasy but the possibility of death striking down major characters helps the story feel more real.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

And to be honest the star wars prequels have some good scenes too.


Care to give an example?
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34623 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:15 pm to
i thought the first movie really followed the book, this one had some changes that worked very well, i.e. the elf-dwarf romance (i sure don't remember that in the hobbit)...nor were orcs chasing them down the river as they escaped in barrels...
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:31 pm to
I just saw the movie tonight and thoroughly enjoyed. I cannot decide if I like it more than the first Hobbit movie because I loved every bit of that movie as well. My only complaint of this movie is the inclusion of Tauriel. Totally unnecessary and her forced romance plot line with a dwarf really irked me. I still do not understand why she had to be included.

While there were a number of changes from the book, I still loved this movie. I will be seeing it again on Sunday.
Posted by WhoDats10
Member since Dec 2012
1580 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:54 pm to
Yeah, but atleast you never have to tell people you failed out of LSU. And I hate to be that guy, but O enjoyed the star wars prequels. I liked the gladiaotr scene is Attack of the Clones, loved revenge of the sith, and Darth maul was badass.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25849 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Actually, no it wouldn't. But I don't want to spoil it.


My thoughts exactly.


Also, I thought the movie was alright. I understand how all movies go away from the book for whatever reason. The original LOTR movies under Jackson did as did the first the Hobbit movie but I felt that this movie went way, way too far off course. I know some of the scenes come from Tolkien's other works, which I am glad Jackson brings into the story, but some are just completely Jackson's imagination.

I felt like they rushed passed scenes that actually happened in the book to make room for scenes that were made up which I didn't like.

With that said, even though Legolas wasn't in the book I did like this edition of him. He was way more of a hardass which was cool. I also liked the barrel fight scene which was also a Jackson original. And yes I also loved how they portrayed Smaug, that way surpassed my expectations. Especially the first scene he had with Biblo when a lot of the dialogue came straight from the book.

eta: I liked the first one more, I know it deviated as well but I felt like it stayed more on course than the second one. Also, the second never played the main "Dwarves, Misty Mountains Cold" theme that was the main theme in the first one. I liked that theme, sucks they didn't play it.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 11:04 pm
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