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re: Official Falcon and the Winter Soldier Episode 5 Discussion Thread

Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:59 pm to
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Does anyone else feel like Bucky’s fighting abilities have taken a hit? I’m rewatching Civil War and he went toe to toe with Steve and T’Challa multiple times. His abilities linked somehow to him not letting The Winter Soldier out? I figured he could’ve taken Walker without help. I know Walker had the Shield and the serum but Bucky has proven his fighting abilities before to be pretty close to Steve and T’Challa, both of whom I’m pretty sure would have taken Walker


There was a certain ruthlessness he had when he was Winter Soldier. He’s more human now, has more of a human nature and not so animalistic. At least that’s the way I see it.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:00 am to
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The Shield is NOT the property of the US. Since Vibranium comes from Wakanda it's their property. Since Thanos destroyed Cap's Shield in Endgame it's obvious Steve got another shield.



He got it from another timeline, it has the same look as the one that he used in First Avenger.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:11 am to
One question I have is are they purposefully not saying where Steve is?

They mentioned in this episode that he is "gone" but isn't he just a old dude now who returned to the main timeline after living a full life with Peggy?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:16 am to
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Does Sam strike you as the type of guy to ask a GRIEVING WIDOW for money days after her husband's funeral?


We’re months beyond that now, but Sam and Pepper have had no on screen interactions that we’ve seen.

Bradley’s appearance in this show should have been left in the earlier episode. Yeah you were wronged but now you’re just a bitter old hateful man who hates an entire nation because of a group of government assholes.

The racial element to the show is minimal but it’s clear as day it was forced in when they resumed filming.

Karli is still a little shite, Walker is a great character (not necessarily a likable one, but he has by far the best writing on the show), but Bruhl is the best actor on the show. Whatever they need to do to bring him back for Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers as that team’s lead, do it.

Bucky is a low key poon hound.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:19 am to
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So.... what’s in the wakanda box???


I won’t tell you, but you’ll like it. It’s very easy to find out too because before Wuhan Flu, it would have been a hot ticket Christmas item.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:23 am to
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We’re months beyond that now, but Sam and Pepper have had no on screen interactions that we’ve seen.


Would have made more sense for him to contact Ant-Man and the van Dynes imo.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:08 am to
Besides the woke shite this show just doesn't come close to WandaVision so far.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:37 am to
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Also, the fact that Sam & his sister had to call in "favors" owed to their parents is a terrible story line hole. Everyone in the community would be lining up to help a boy from the Bayou. I mean, c'mon this board KNOWS this.


No doubt but most people around the world that this show is catered to don't know that about South Louisiana folks so I thought it was a good work around
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:43 am to
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Besides the woke shite this show just doesn't come close to WandaVision so far.




Tell me what "woke shite" bothers you?

Some people will never be satisfied. Considering how split politically this country is, I think the show is doing a damn fine job of staying neutral and bridging some of the stupid divide that the media constantly spews.

You are being the Isaiah Bradley of anti-wokeness right now
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:47 am to
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Bucky is a low key poon hound


He was a poon hound in CA:FA
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:54 am to
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The Shield is NOT the property of the US. Since Vibranium comes from Wakanda it's their property. Since Thanos destroyed Cap's Shield in Endgame it's obvious Steve got another shield.


He got it from another timeline, it has the same look as the one that he used in First Avenger.


Vibranium is still from Wakanada. It was never said how Howard Stark obtained the Vibranium and the Wakandans, being somewhat xenophobes, would not be giving vibranium to another nation for the hell of it.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:19 am to
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South Louisiana folks


Anthony Mackie has said multiple times he's "always reppin' New Orleans."

I'll bet he's the one who convinced the show-runners to re-write the Falcon's family history from being from Harlem, NY to South Louisiana.

Getting the Neville Brothers' Hey Pocky Way into a montage this episode was probably a Mackie suggestion as well.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 8:23 am to
Of course I'm just saying most of the people in the world don't know about the hospitality of sout Louisiana folks not that this show is partly based in South Louisiana
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 8:39 am to
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Vibranium is still from Wakanada. It was never said how Howard Stark obtained the Vibranium and the Wakandans, being somewhat xenophobes, would not be giving vibranium to another nation for the hell of it.


I believe the theory is Starks team stumbled upon a small amount outside of Wakanda. With a mediorite landing in Wakanda it’s likely smaller pieces were scattered outside of the border.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 8:45 am to
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Besides the woke shite t


Meh, I think Sam countered Bradley by wanting to be whatever his version of Cap is going to be. Basically showing us that he can overcome the rhetoric that Bradley was spewing.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:05 am to
That's what I'm thinking. A kinetic suit like Black Panther's probably with wings.
They played the captain America music when he opened the chest.
Leads me to wonder. Does Shuri have a machine that can just print out super suits?
They seem to have made it fast.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:11 am to
Sam doesn't want super soldier serum. I doubt he would take the panther drink as well.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:16 am to
Can see him coming in with an assist in the last episode.
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:18 am to
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Leads me to wonder. Does Shuri have a machine that can just print out super suits? They seem to have made it fast.


Stark did, don’t see why Shuri can’t.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:25 am to
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Also, in my head canon, Bucky definitely fricked Sam's sister. 100%


He got addicted to Dark Chocolate in Wakanda.


I definitely get the impression from the way Ayo looks at him that she has a thing for him. I'm not sure if that is a conscious choice in the directing, or if maybe the actress is into Sebastian Stan, or maybe I'm just reading something that is not there, but it definitely seems that way.
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