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re: Official Dark Knight Discussion Thread (Spoilers)
Posted on 7/20/08 at 1:44 pm to hashtag
Posted on 7/20/08 at 1:44 pm to hashtag
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i never said better. He said:
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I haven't seen someone more into a character than Ledger in a while and one that the audience actually likes.
Everyone was saying the exact same thing about Depp after the first Pirates movie. Just an observation. Same thing was said about Hopkins in the Silence of the Lambs. I'm sure there are many more movies that people felt this way about on the Sunday after the movie released.
Tom Hanks in Philadelphia and Forrest Gump also come to mind.
i don't know if you can actually read or not, but your statement basically agrees with what he wrote. he said he hadn't seen a performance like that in A WHILE then you went on your little rant. the movies and performances you listed were all quite a while ago though, so i'm not sure exactly why you're whining
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Posted on 7/20/08 at 3:30 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Posted on 7/20/08 at 3:33 pm to ligerbait
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TDK is currently #1 all time on IMDB. Doubt it will hold up but that's pretty crazy.
if heath ledger hadnt died it wouldnt even be on that top 250 list.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 3:33 pm to ligerbait
SPOILER QUESTION!!
WHo was on top of the $$ pile that the Joker burned. It looked like Rachel to me(but im sure it wasnt)
WHo was on top of the $$ pile that the Joker burned. It looked like Rachel to me(but im sure it wasnt)
Posted on 7/20/08 at 3:35 pm to Rustontiger43
spoiler answer
it was that Chinese guy
it was that Chinese guy
Posted on 7/20/08 at 3:37 pm to hashtag
His death is only hype for this movie to the ignorant. Fact is since the 1st pic of him as the joker was released that was the beginning of the hype. It's when we saw what he was and could be. He is without a doubt the best villian in any movie ever. I bet everyone saying he isn't the best villian can't name a better one. MAYBE the guy from A Clockwork Orange.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 3:44 pm to Acreboy
My favorite part was when he got out of the truck and was saying..do it, do it, Hit me, hit me HIT ME...and the bat bike slid around him and he casually looked over his shoulder to watch batman crash!! 
:bow:
:bow:This post was edited on 7/20/08 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 7/20/08 at 4:06 pm to hashtag
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I haven't seen someone more into a character than Ledger in a while and one that the audience actually likes.
Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York comes to mind as well.
That being said...Nobody coulod have pulled off what Ledger did in this movie. HE NAILED IT
Posted on 7/20/08 at 4:38 pm to Acreboy
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I bet everyone saying he isn't the best villian can't name a better one.
C'mon man. I liked it too, but best ever?
Hannibal Lecter
Darth Vader
Norman Bates
John Do
Keyser Soze
Dr. Christian Szell
Agent Smith
Not to say that these are all "matter of fact" better than Ledger's Joker, but they've all stood the test of time. Will Heath? Maybe, and I hope so, but I doubt that anyone will be saying he was the best 20 years from now.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 4:51 pm to blueboy
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Hannibal Lecter
Darth Vader
Norman Bates
John Do
Keyser Soze
Dr. Christian Szell
Agent Smith
all were awesome...just as ledgers is
Posted on 7/20/08 at 4:55 pm to blueboy
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C'mon man. I liked it too, but best ever?
Hannibal Lecter
Darth Vader
Norman Bates
John Do
Keyser Soze
Dr. Christian Szell
Agent Smith
Not to say that these are all "matter of fact" better than Ledger's Joker, but they've all stood the test of time. Will Heath? Maybe, and I hope so, but I doubt that anyone will be saying he was the best 20 years from now.
It's a lot easier to name movies that became classics over time, than to name movies that were looked at less favorably as time went on...
TDK needs at least a couple of Oscar nods to really cement itself among the all time greats, but with Heath Ledger dying, the critical praise, the box office success, the ultimate in what makes a movie endure: praise from the fans...this movie is going to hold up.
All of those villain you named were incredible...that's what makes Ledger's so great. This Joker will go down as good as any one those...if not better than some. He will go down as one of the top five villains...ever.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 5:04 pm to DanglingFury
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He will go down as one of the top five villains...ever.
I will not be disappointed if that happens. I just think we need the distance of time to truly put it in perspective.
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TDK needs at least a couple of Oscar nods to really cement itself among the all time greats
Disagree. Shawshank was snubbed by Oscar but still makes more top 5 lists than any other film I've seen.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 5:12 pm to blueboy
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Disagree. Shawshank was snubbed by Oscar
By nods, I meant it just needs some nominations...Shawshank had seven Oscar nominations.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 5:27 pm to DanglingFury
Ah. I still don't think Oscar attenton is necessary for greatness. The Oscars have become a joke anyway.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 7:15 pm to DanglingFury
Just saw it, great movie, top 20 or so for Sci-Fi but I don't see myself watching this more than maybe 2 times.
As far as I know I've only seen Ledger in 2 movies The Patriot and this.
I thought the Patriot sucked, besides Brokeback what were his best roles before this?
Spoiler answer: from a few pages ago.
Gordon said that he faked death to protect his family.
As far as I know I've only seen Ledger in 2 movies The Patriot and this.
I thought the Patriot sucked, besides Brokeback what were his best roles before this?
Spoiler answer: from a few pages ago.
Gordon said that he faked death to protect his family.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 7:34 pm to Iona Fan Man
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I thought the Patriot sucked, besides Brokeback what were his best roles before this?
Oh maybe you've never heard of a little movie I like to call 10 Things I Hate About You?
Posted on 7/20/08 at 7:44 pm to DanglingFury
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10 Things I Hate About You?
A line I like to quote from that movie that no one ever knows where it's from:
"I'm thinking of getting a Tercel...yeah, that's a Toyota."
best pickup line ever.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 7:50 pm to DanglingFury
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Oh maybe you've never heard of a little movie I like to call 10 Things I Hate About You?
I'll give it a look...and nope never heard of it. Sounds like a chick flic so not really in my Genre.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 7:56 pm to Iona Fan Man
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I'll give it a look...and nope never heard of it. Sounds like a chick flic so not really in my Genre.
I was actually joking...it's a teen angst high school flick with Ledger, Julia Stiles, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt all pretty much in their first movie roles. It's surprisingly entertaining, but I'm sure there's better Ledger movies to watch.
Posted on 7/20/08 at 8:07 pm to DanglingFury
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but I'm sure there's better Ledger movies to watch.
Monster's Ball and Lords of Dogtown were pretty good.
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