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re: Official Big Brother 17 Season Long Thread (Spoilers/Live Feeders/Maybe NSFW)

Posted on 7/12/15 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by UserName69
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 2:00 pm to
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I'm not convinced that Clay is ready to turn on Jeff. Shelli was giving him the death stare because the entire argument was over Jeff saying he couldn't trust Clay with Shelli in the house.


Shelli run's Clay's game. Jeff gone.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
16153 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
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Vanessa said as a gay woman, it would be embarrassing to put a transgender woman on the block. Especially without evidence. NT



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V said there is too much reasonable doubt about Audrey and as a gay person she won't send her home, but has no issue sending Jeff NT



frick you Vanessa. That has nothing to do with the game you stupid bitch.

The rest of the house shouldn't have let Audrey sit in the have-not room with Shelli and Vanessa after Da blew up on her. She got her hooks in both of them
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 3:50 pm
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
3026 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:50 pm to
I honestly think Vanessa is putting on a front as to why she doesn't want to put Audrey up. Maybe I'm giving her too much credit, but I think she recognizes that getting Jeff out helps her numbers long-term and Audrey will be an easy out whenever needed. Right now she can make her an ally of sorts and get rid of her later.

It's not a bad strategic move to keep her in the game. Especially when you have the rest of the house thinking it's because Audrey is pulling her strings. Keeps the target on Audrey, eliminates an opponent in the house, and allows Vanessa to slide away with minimal blood.

ETA: If she does believe what she's saying, then I agree with you.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 3:52 pm
Posted by CoolBoy13
Member since Oct 2010
140 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:06 pm to
I was hoping Vanessa was just saying that as a smokescreen but I actually think she's being sincere with that comment about Audrey. Last night she said she's not here for the 500k even though it would be nice..she's here for the "competitive challenge." It kinda explains her jacked up HOH play this week
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39437 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:25 pm to
The hell Vanessa? Is this shite real?
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46125 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:31 pm to
I think it could bite them but I wouldn't get Audrey out yet either
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16291 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:17 pm to
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It's not a bad strategic move to keep her in the game. Especially when you have the rest of the house thinking it's because Audrey is pulling her strings. Keeps the target on Audrey, eliminates an opponent in the house, and allows Vanessa to slide away with minimal blood.

If I was Vanessa I wouldn't want to target Audrey either, and would definitely be ousting Jeff.

But I think while she may feel some "responsibility" if she booted Audrey considering she is a gay woman, I think she is definitely playing it up though to keep blood off her hands.

But right now she is picking Jeff apart one on one, and Jeff is getting schooled. It starts somewhere at the 2:30 or 2:45 PM mark.
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
3026 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:34 pm to
Yeah, Jeff is looking like he's somewhere between flipping out or breaking down in tears.

This whole thing has been so convoluted, but I think Vanessa comes out of it looking weak - which benefits the hell out of her down the line.
Posted by CoolBoy13
Member since Oct 2010
140 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:54 pm to
Yeah on 2nd thought I think Vanessa is using that transgender line brilliantly. But she still put a huge target on her chest this week and doesn't know when to stop talking
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32653 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:04 pm to
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doesn't know when to stop talking


This. She's told this story twenty times and is to the point of repeating it to people who were in the room.

What Da said about Audrey is true; the house is scared of her. Last week, she didn't start drama until after renoms. This weeks, she's doing it again. This time, she feels safe enough to do it before Monday.

Audrey did try saying Vanessa wanted an all girls alliance, so lets not act like she's been working with her since the beginning.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16291 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:12 pm to
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Audrey did try saying Vanessa wanted an all girls alliance, so lets not act like she's been working with her since the beginning.

Of course.

At the end of the day there are two alliances in the house and Vanessa is in one, and Jeff & James are in the other. Jeff has been way too loose with his game play and giving too much info to other people, and it gave Vanessa a chance to manipulate the situation to point the target on him. She has been on point with how she has dealt with her alliance and with the other alliance and is a superior game player than he is and that is why he is probably going home. It is what it is.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 6:13 pm
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
3026 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:15 pm to
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. But she still put a huge target on her chest this week


Has she though? Outside of Jeff (and I guess maybe Jackie... who let's face it, no one is concerned about); I don't think anyone comes out thinking Vanessa is their next target or even the one to follow that. For Meg, Jason, and James; Audrey is viewed as the primary target. After that, probably Austin. Becky still wants Audrey out first; and who knows what Johnny Mac wants. Everyone else is aligned with Vanessa.

I've found her annoying and tough to watch, but I think she gets out of this week with Jeff being evicted and the target not on her back.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32653 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:15 pm to
She won HOH when he didn't. Audrey is controlling this HOH just like she had a hand in Da being sent home.

Derrick was smooth in controlling the house. Audrey is obvious with it and those who align with her are too dumb to see that she is running their game.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57329 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:23 pm to
Is someone going home tonight?
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
32653 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:25 pm to
Thursday night. Vanessa is HOH. Veto was played yesterday. Renoms are tomorrow morning. Johnny Mac won veto. He and James were on the block. Johnny Mac is expected to pull himself down, Jeff is expected to go up.

Jeff trying to persuade Austin right now. Doubt it works.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57329 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:26 pm to
Gotcha thanks. GF has me watching it for the first time this season.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16291 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:39 pm to
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Audrey is controlling this HOH just like she had a hand in Da being sent home.

What? Have you been watching the live feeds? Van, Austin, Lizlia, Clay, and Shelli made the decision to go after James or Jeff before BoB noms when Audrey wasn't even involved. Audrey is just another chess piece at this point. Audrey was never going on the block for Van because she isn't a threat for Van.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57329 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:42 pm to
Do you have to pay to watch the live feeds?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52834 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:43 pm to
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Do you have to pay to watch the live feeds?


Yes $6.99 a month
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16291 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 6:43 pm to
Yeah, but it's not very much. It is definitely worth it.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 6:44 pm
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