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re: Official Big Brother 14 Spoiler Thread (Premieres July 12 9/8c)

Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by LSU1018
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:28 pm to
I said all along they would never vote for Dan to win twice. It's ashame bc I think he is the greatest player to ever play the game.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:28 pm to
I thought the vote was going to be 3-3 with Danielle having the deciding vote.

I think Ian deserved to win because he proved it. If Dan would have won, he deserved it as well, but you need friends in th jury.

As someone said earlier, it is like Russell Nantz on Survivor, he beat everyone but stabbed too many people.
Posted by tygeray
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:29 pm to
Like I said, you aren't going to get votes when u swear on the Bible, your family, and grandfathers chain. His gameplay was flawless other than that. And I'm a Dan fan, but I agree with the jury. There has to be a little bit of trust
Posted by OnTheBrink
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:32 pm to
The only way for Dan to have friends in the jury was to be sitting with them.

He was out the door when Frank was HoH. The puppetmaster then started pulling strings and making enemies. I started getting a bad feeling about Dan winning the first time they showed the jury house.
Posted by tygeray
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:36 pm to
Being the puppet master is one thing. And makes him and dr will the best ever. The jury could take the lies, just not the swearing.
Posted by Moleman
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:37 pm to
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Like I said, you aren't going to get votes when u swear on the Bible, your family, and grandfathers chain. His gameplay was flawless other than that.


Worked for him the first time so he probably thought it would again, unfortunately he was stuck with several people that have limited knowledge of the show and Frank's not being able to get over himself.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 10:41 pm
Posted by OnTheBrink
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:40 pm to
I agree. I am a huge Dan fan and I would cringe with some of the stuff he was promising.

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:43 pm to
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Hell, not winning competitions and still being there at the end makes it even more incredible. That's how good his game was.


quantitatively he had nothing of substance on his resume comparable to ian but the lies and backstabbing.

manipulating the mental heavyweights of danielle, joe, and shane is not even worth acknowledging. ian manipulated boogie and frank which is far more noteworthy.

at the end of the day, you need to win the physical and mental competitions or at least manipulate with a semblance of creativity which transcends simply swearing on your religion and your wifes life.




Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:44 pm to
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He won comps this year and won 3 HOH and 2 POV's on season 10, so it's not like he's not capable of winning them.


i was under the impression this wasnt the lifetime achievement season of big brother...
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:47 pm to
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rocket31
You sound like you should've been on that jury.
Anybody who even attempts to make an argument that Ian played a better game than Dan is either completely unfamiliar with Big Brother ,or a complete moron.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:52 pm to


brb can not think of a worthy rebuttal so ill just call the other person a "moron"

great argument; would read again.

ian: more HOHs, more vetos, and the kid effortlessly played both sides of the entire house for weeks.
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:56 pm to
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ian: more HOHs, more vetos,
Competitions are not the main part of the game Big Brother.
It is fundamentally a social game,and there is no case to be made for Ian having a better social game.
quote:

and the kid effortlessly played both sides of the entire house for weeks.
He was Britney's puppet,until he was Dan's puppet.
That idiot still thought Dan would've taken him to the final two,until Dani told him otherwise.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:12 pm to
I haven't read that's argument just saw it and will give my opinion not directed towards either one of you.

I think Ian played well but followed britt and Dan

Dan played a masterful game, better than anyone ever, and deserved to win but the jury was to pissed at him and also didn't want to give him another 500K. To many people hated him BC they trusted and believed him even though they saw first hand him cut others throats but thought well he won't do that to ME!

The best player ever came in second tonight
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Member since Feb 2005
20887 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:18 pm to
Dan is the GOAT

jury is full of butthurt and vagina sand.

I like Ian and am glad he won if Dan didn't

I hate Jenn

Shane is a woman.

On to Survivor I guess...........
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

wish i was tebow
You are correct on all points,imo.
That's my big problem with the show,I always want the best player to win,not the houseguests favorite.
That's what happened tonight,Janelle hit the nail on the head with her comments about Dan.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13303 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:32 pm to
They need people who have watched this show and need to stop recruiting players to play, because that is what happen this year. Dan should have won, and he has proved he is the best bb player
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 12:10 am to
Nah Dan did make some mistakes that cost him (not winning the POV comp that Ian won on the live double eviction that sent Joe out being one)

This was a great season after a slow start

see all you guys next summer
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 2:57 am to
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Anybody who even attempts to make an argument that Ian played a better game than Dan is either completely unfamiliar with Big Brother ,or a complete moron.


Ian won so therefore he played a better game. IDGAF what you think about the jury's vote; the jury's vote is what matters and they gave it to Ian. Ian played the game well enough to not only get to the end, but also to win the vote. Dan only played well enough to get to the end.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 2:57 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:00 am to
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Dan played a masterful game, better than anyone ever, and deserved to win but the jury was to pissed at him and also didn't want to give him another 500K.


The only people who get to determine who "deserves" to win are the jury members (well the only people who matter).

The goal of big brother is to win, not just to convince everyone that you're the most cunning, greatest, ruthless player of all time. Dan proved he is great at manipulation and advancing in the game without winning competitions; Ian won the game. It's that simple.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 3:03 am to
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jury is full of butthurt and vagina sand.


If you get this upset over watching a reality show, imagine how upset you would be if someone like Dan lied to your face only to stab you in the back and cost you a chance at winning the biggest game of your life. It's easy to sit on the couch and call the jury pussies when it wasn't you who invested your time in the game and got taken advantage of. Earning the respect of prospective jury members is part of the game and Dan knew that; it's a cop out to just say they're pussies.
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