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re: Official Better Call Saul - Episode 9 "Pimento"
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:43 pm to Chef Leppard
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:43 pm to Chef Leppard
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I mean, he crawled into a dumpster full of shitty grandpa diapers
Saul isn't afraid to get dirty.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:46 pm to Methuselah
quote:I believe he said that it "must have felt like a blowtorch", and I thought it was a great way to underscore how much Chuck had to (supposedly) endure to screw Jimmy over.
and he threw in the line about how the cell phone must have been "blasting into his brain" through his ear or something like that
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:10 pm to Chef Leppard
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I won't say that can't be the case, but seems unlikely. Jimmy was obviously morally vacant in his early years. In and outta trouble, jail, etc. HHM seems like a pretty prestigious firm where he has built a reputation as a formidable legal mind. Im sure hes beyond conflicted about his brothers newfound ambitions
Not saying that justifies his actions at all, but its easy to jump to the defense of lovable loser jimmy at this point
Yep, anyone with a frickup family member can at least empathize with Chuck's actions. And really, isn't it justified? Obviously Jimmy becomes the criminal lawyer Walt and Jesse needed.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 5:55 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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And that's not to mention that he can still wheel & deal in the courtroom like nobody's business. The whole class action lawsuit was his doing. He was the one sharp enough to know that something fricky was going on at Sandpiper Cove. He was the one who lawfully obtained the shredded documents.
It wasn't completely Jimmy.
Chuck convinced Jimmy it was a bigger case, told him what they needed. Chuck stayed up and pieced the shredded documents together when Jimmy fell asleep. Chuck saw the fraud and out of state invoicing. Chuck used his account at the firm to pull the research.
In Chuck's eyes, he put the case together for Jimmy and got him paid nicely for the referral.
And remember, Chuck was already resentful about Jimmy conning him into doing his work with the Tom Sawyer thing.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:16 pm to PowerTool
The fact that he lied to Saul about it tells a lot. He acted like he had his younger brother's back while Saul was legitimately trying to do good work..and in reality, chuck was the one who was holding him down, letting another take the blame shows his true character.
Without Saul, Chuck would have had a difficult time managing life. If the roles were reversed, Saul wouldn't have done that to his family.Hell, he goes above and beyond for his clients.
Without Saul, Chuck would have had a difficult time managing life. If the roles were reversed, Saul wouldn't have done that to his family.Hell, he goes above and beyond for his clients.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:27 pm to Chef Leppard
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The entire case is out of his league and he doesnt even recognize that. Can you imagine the shenanigans of him clowning around HHM for a couple years while a bunch of veteran sharks grind out a $20mm class action suit Just playing devils advocate here
While it may have hurt Chuck to do it, he did what you would expect him to do to protect his firm. While Jimmy might have intervals of doing the right thing, don't forget that he also took a $30,000 fee from the Kettlemens that he did not earn (and later had to replace), he went along with Mike's ruse with stealing the detective's notebook, he pulled the billboard stunt, he had the skateboarders pull their routine . . . Chuck knows what Jimmy is even if he is not aware of all of his antics. Once a con man, always a con man. To invite him into the firm would be like telling the wolf to guard the henhouse . . . He knows he is an ethical nightmare waiting to happen.
One good case does not change who Chuck is at heart.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:00 pm to Chef Leppard
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He bumbled his way into it. hes hungry. I mean, he crawled into a dumpster full of shitty grandpa diapers
I wouldn't say bumbled. He recognized how they were screwing his customers and did what it took to find the evidence. Would he fit in at HHM? Maybe, who knows what he could do with a legit shot and resources. But we all know that Saul is his true calling. Slippin' Jimmy was born to be Saul Goodman...not Matlock. If my arse was in trouble, I'd damn sure take Saul over HHM.
That's the kind of lawyer I want!
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:23 pm to Ericvol2096
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Jimmy is going to start to get the big triple screw this episode from Chuck, His girl and Hamlin.
I was happy that the "screw" didn't come from Kim at all (though I expected it would).
And Hamlin? Yeah, he's a douche. But he wasn't a douche because of the way the firm treated him.
That was Chuck. Chuck is the one, major tried-and-true douche.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:31 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Nope. She knows his brother is fricking him and will never let him in the firm. She don't want to hurt him.
This made me unbelievable relieved. Not the fact that Jimmy got fricked, but the fact that Kim had no part in it.
I do, however, think she will eventually sacrifice her friendship with Jimmy for the sake of career advancement eventually though.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:33 pm to SmackoverHawg
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The ONE person he wanted to impress and please more than anyone else, and he shits in his face.
Here's the thing... I don't give a shite about "online courses" or "the University of American Samoa".
If you pass the Bar you pass THE frickING BAR.
There are Ivy League grads that can't pass the goddam Bar examination.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:35 pm to beatbammer
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This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:37 pm to Twenty 49
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Chuck should not be so uppity. I remember him when he was in Lenny & The Squigtones.
Yes, but it was only a matter of a few years later he had made it to the very top with Spinal Tap.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:38 pm to beatbammer
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you pass the Bar you pass THE frickING BAR.
Truth
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:42 pm to adono
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Chuck's position on the case was actually a realistic approach to the problem. Class Action suits cannot be handled by a "mom and pop" operation...too much paperwork and money needed.
Chuck's "realistic" approach to handling the class action only came about because it was Chuck that pushed it to BECOME a class action.
And, by doing so, handing it over to good ol' HH&M.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:56 pm to Chef Leppard
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The entire case is out of his league and he doesnt even recognize that. Can you imagine the shenanigans of him clowning around HHM for a couple years while a bunch of veteran sharks grind out a $20mm class action suit
Jimmy got Mr. and Mrs. Embezzler to plead when HH&M and the "veteran sharks" couldn't even make a dent in their wall.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:59 pm to Methuselah
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But on the other hand, in today's world, the big firms tend to hire exclusively from the top level of graduates and I'm pretty sure only from traditional reputable law schools. So it is not unusual for HH&M not to hire Jimmy.
How about honesty then?
"Sorry, Jimmy, not now. HH&M has a reputation to uphold, but if you work hard and make progress on your career for 5 years and make a name for yourself, we may have good reason to come knocking on your door and welcome you to the HH&M family."
Would that have been so hard? I say the answer to that question is "no".
But the answer to the question is "yes" if you are like Chuck and think of your brother not as a former loser trying to make something of his life, but as a LIFETIME LOSER.
Chuck didn't even give him a glimmer of a shot. He just shut him out.
Can't wait until Saul gets here. And I'm gonna laugh when he makes HH&M look bad.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:08 pm to beatbammer
Am I the only one who thinks Jimmy and Kimmy are pretty much done?
Jimmy really insulted her at the salon, and she sounded pretty sad and final when she told him it was time to move on from HHM and everything and start a new life.
Plus, I suspect the closed door scene with Howard is where she heard the history of "Slippin' Jimmy" for the first time.
Jimmy really insulted her at the salon, and she sounded pretty sad and final when she told him it was time to move on from HHM and everything and start a new life.
Plus, I suspect the closed door scene with Howard is where she heard the history of "Slippin' Jimmy" for the first time.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:13 pm to beatbammer
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There are Ivy League grads that can't pass the goddam Bar examination.
Poor bastards probably have to become Community Organizers or some shite.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:20 pm to PsychTiger
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Poor bastards probably have to become Community Organizers or some shite.
Not gonna go there... sorry.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:56 pm to beatbammer
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Jimmy got Mr. and Mrs. Embezzler to plead when HH&M and the "veteran sharks" couldn't even make a dent in their wall.
by having a hitman break into their house and steal the money back? from a couple that threatened to implicate him for taking $30k of dirty money if he not only didnt represent them but get them exonerated?
thats called self preservation. not legal prowess
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