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re: Obama to crack down on movie, music, software piracy
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:40 pm to Afreaux
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:40 pm to Afreaux
quote:I was a musician and have several musician friends on both the indie side and major label side.
10 years as a music journalist, what do I know
Producing an album is relatively cheap, especially on your own. My friend's studio only charges about $200 a track including studio time and he handles mixing. The quality is fantastic. I could drop a grand on an album, spend a few hours making a facebook, myspace, etc for my band. email, text, call, etc every single person I know to come see me play some venues.
This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 1:41 pm
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Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:40 pm to CornDogCologne
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I can't last more than 15 minutes on the radio without turning it off in disgust. The stuff that the media tries to force feed people is revolting in most cases.
pandora, private tracker/forums, etc have done more to turn me on to good music in the last 20 years than anything on the radio.
in fact, the last time i listened to the radio (outside of npr or talk radio) was KLSU back in the 1980s.
if any music i listen to has a crossover to something popular on the radio, its coincidence. when i do flip around the radio here in nashville, its more morning talk shows and ads than anything else.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:41 pm to stout
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Another thing, if the movie industry would offer a digital copy that allows one time viewing controlled on their website for a fee that would release the same day a movie opens in theaters they would recoup a lot of revenue they lose on piracy
this was the concept behind DIVX before DVD kilt it
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:42 pm to Afreaux
quote:
10 years as a music journalist, what do I know
i know that your bias in the "old system" is showing, and i bet it has a lot to do with this
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:43 pm to Afreaux
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10 years as a music journalist, what do I know
Is there anything this man can't do?
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You're right, I've paid $500 an hour for the last five years.
Well, you aren't an employee there so if you don't pay for play then it must be like that cable access shite on Wayne's World. Bring your own sponsors and you get airtime.
Congrats
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:its like all those businesses who didnt want to get a website in the late 90's.
i know that your bias in the "old system" is showing, and i bet it has a lot to do with this
If you refuse to adapt to technology, you're going to sink. If you embrace it, you'll survive and can thrive
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:44 pm to Pilot Tiger
happy bday Pilot!!
/hijack
/hijack
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:45 pm to BBMcGee
quote:i want boob pics in my inbox ASAP
BBMcGee
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:46 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:
My friend's studio only charges about $200 a track including studio time and he handles mixing. The quality is fantastic. I could drop a grand on an album, spend a few hours making a facebook, myspace, etc for my band. email, text, call, etc every single person I know to come see me play some venues.
And the likelihood that you'd generate a significant amount of revenue from said album would be astronomical.
If an artist wants to be exposed to a bigger audience, videos + spins are going to involve them recouping on what an indie label (at minimum) is willing to invest. For every "Die Antwoord" that goes viral a whole year after they offer a completely free download of their album, there are literally a thousand other artists that you've never heard of.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this was the concept behind DIVX before DVD kilt it
my fav is the 'biodegradeable' DVD that only works 2 or 3 times before it..well..biodegrades.
the MPAA is funny.
eta and the 'better buy it now! going back into the disney vault!' is even more of an EPIC FAIL
hello disney, ever heard of the public library? they're letting people 'check out' your 'vaulted' dvds?
This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:47 pm to Afreaux
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For every "Die Antwoord" that goes viral a whole year after they offer a completely free download of their album, there are literally a thousand other artists that you've never heard of.
WLOTM?
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:48 pm to stout
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Bring your own sponsors and you get airtime.
Yeah, I go wrangle up sponsors
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:49 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:
i want boob pics in my inbox ASAP
You're gonna have to wait until I get home.
I'm not actually ho-ey enough to have boob pics taken and ready to send out on demand.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:51 pm to Afreaux
quote:outside of pop and a couple of other genres, the ONLY way to get exposure is through the internet.
And the likelihood that you'd generate a significant amount of revenue from said album would be astronomical.
youtube, facebook, myspace, fm, etc can put your stuff out there and it's FREE. Unless you make manufactored, cookie cutter music you HAVE to rely on people downloading your stuff
quote:dude this case was MORE true before the internet. R and A would take your tape and throw it in the garbage never to be heard. The internet and downloading has allowed artists to be heard. The ones who embrace that and accept that people arent going to go to walmart and buy their CD are the ones who are going to survive
For every "Die Antwoord" that goes viral a whole year after they offer a completely free download of their album, there are literally a thousand other artists that you've never heard of.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:51 pm to Afreaux
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And the likelihood that you'd generate a significant amount of revenue from said album would be astronomical.
Add this to shite pulled from one's arse.
You don't think bands have a better shot these days to get noticed and get their music out there to people that like it? Also, amazingly they can do this without record lables ripping them off with shitty contracts.
Karmapolice is a good example. Thanks to youtube and social media what should be a pretty regional band has been able to sell albums and shows all over the USA. They have a ton of fans on the East Coast and tour it pretty regular.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:53 pm to Pilot Tiger
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The ones who embrace that and accept that people arent going to go to walmart and buy their CD are the ones who are going to survive
Agreed. I have found so many artist over the past 5 years that I never would have heard about otherwise.
They also have more revenue streams these days than they used to. Artist with a lot of youtube fans actually become youtube partners and revenue share off of ads like Google does with websites. It isn't all about the CDs anymore.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:54 pm to BBMcGee
quote:i mean, they dont have to be completely bare
You're gonna have to wait until I get home.
I'm not actually ho-ey enough to have boob pics taken and ready to send out on demand.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:57 pm to Pilot Tiger
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dude this case was MORE true before the internet. R and A would take your tape and throw it in the garbage never to be heard.
R and A?
You talking about an A&R?
An A&R or producer who might have given an album a listen 20 years ago won't even glance in your direction today unless you've moved 30k-50k units. And you've got a 1 in 100 chance of that happening if you're not getting spins. The more revenue you generate from sales, the faster you can recoup what it took to get you there.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:58 pm to stout
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You don't think bands have a better shot these days to get noticed and get their music out there to people that like it?
The year 1972 was mentioned.
Today, thanks to things like YouTube and MySpace, an unknown band has a much, MUCH better chance of getting heard than say, Big Star in 1972.
In the olden days you had one shot -- radio. But if you didn't get added to the playlists of the major radio chains, you might as well not have existed.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 1:58 pm to Pilot Tiger
damn i can't wait for my birthday
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