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re: Obama to crack down on movie, music, software piracy
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:38 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:38 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
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Enforcing the law only matters to Kafka if it involves a fascist agenda.
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The White House's vision is perhaps a prelude to the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, which will go before Congress later this year. The bill would make P2P or BitTorrent client development a criminal offense if the distributed software was used for infringement. It also implements an interesting provision called "imminent infringement", which allows the government to charge people who they think might be about to infringe with a civil offense (for example if you searched "torrent daft punk"). This is among the first official "thought crime" provisions to be proposed by the U.S. government.
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Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:38 pm to SG_Geaux
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It also implements an interesting provision called "imminent infringement", which allows the government to charge people who they think might be about to infringe with a civil offense (for example if you searched "torrent daft punk"). This is among the first official "thought crime" provisions to be proposed by the U.S. government. The bill also makes it a criminal offense to bypass DRM.
This is unbelievable. Absolutely un"Fn"believable.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:39 pm to Pilot Tiger
This isn't 2003 Pilot Tiger, you can get your pron without downloading anything
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:40 pm to Afreaux
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As opposed to the last president, who took more vacation days than any other president in the history of the United States?
Okay
Give Obama time. He is catching up.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:40 pm to MoreOrLes
I hope they don't consult user history, because I'm definitely a target of interest if they do. I think about 75% of my searches have the word "torrent" in them.
Even if they do start making some headway, I say it's a fat chance that they get people to start buying CDs again. They can't sue everyone...
Even if they do start making some headway, I say it's a fat chance that they get people to start buying CDs again. They can't sue everyone...
This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:41 pm to MoreOrLes
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allows the government to charge people who they think might be about to infringe with a civil offense (for example if you searched "torrent daft punk").
Is this like flagging people who check Mein Kampf out of the library?
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:41 pm to PBnJ
quote:yea but I like my HD!!!
without downloading anything
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:42 pm to SG_Geaux
It is theft...that happens on a massive scale.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:42 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
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pfffft. Enforcing the law only matters to Kafka if it involves a fascist agenda.
He uploaded a four cd set of pirated music last year.
That's like an O-T poster who admits to shoplifting, bitching about Mayor Holden asking the police and judges to not let thieves off the hook when they get busted stealing shite from the store
This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:44 pm to MoreOrLes
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This is unbelievable. Absolutely un"Fn"believable
care to explain?
i agree the search is a little extreme, but i doubt that becomes an enforcable law. but they do need something extreme to stop the free downloads.
as for DRM, how many times do you really copy your music?
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:44 pm to Afreaux
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What's crazy that Obama spends seven hours a day with his eyes shut.
No wonder his golf game sucks arse.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:45 pm to rondo
quote:meh, it's more like going to a store and taking something off the shelf, cloning it and taking it home while leaving the original item on the shelf.
It is theft...that happens on a massive scale.
Most of the stuff i download I wouldnt buy anyway
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:47 pm to SG_Geaux
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It also implements an interesting provision called "imminent infringement", which allows the government to charge people who they think might be about to infringe with a civil offense (for example if you searched "torrent daft punk"). This is among the first official "thought crime" provisions to be proposed by the U.S. government.
Ain't this guy great ? This is not about the RIAA or "piracy", it's about an end run around the web to shut down sites that don't agree w/ them.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:48 pm to Big Pun
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i agree the search is a little extreme, but i doubt that becomes an enforcable law. but they do need something extreme to stop the free downloads.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:48 pm to Kafka
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:48 pm to Pilot Tiger
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meh, it's more like going to a store and taking something off the shelf, cloning it and taking it home while leaving the original item on the shelf.
Well...when you are dealing with intellectual property thats fricking theft in my book.
You cant clone an apple or lawnmower.
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Most of the stuff i download I wouldnt buy anyway
WTF so if you hate Squash and would never eat it, its ok to take it from a store and throw it away when you get home?
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:50 pm to Kafka
Extreme?
So, if I pirate a CD is a guy going to come over and chop off my hand?
So, if I pirate a CD is a guy going to come over and chop off my hand?
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:51 pm to Pilot Tiger
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meh, it's more like going to a store and taking something off the shelf, cloning it and taking it home while leaving the original item on the shelf.
Whatever helps you sleep. It is theft. You are taking something that does not belong to you.
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Most of the stuff i download I wouldnt buy anyway
So that makes it ok ?
This post was edited on 6/23/10 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:51 pm to SG_Geaux
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Interestingly, the statements seem to fly in the face of a recent Government Accountability Office study released to U.S. Congress earlier this year, which concluded that there is virtually no evidence for the claimed million dollar losses by the entertainment industry. That study suggested that piracy could even benefit the economy.
Another noteworthy study from three years back notes that virtually every citizen violates intellectual property laws in some way on a daily basis.
Posted on 6/23/10 at 12:52 pm to rondo
quote:im not taking their property away. it's still theirs.
Well...when you are dealing with intellectual property
quote:again, it's not like taking a squash. It's like cloning a squash in a few seconds and taking it home. the squash is still there.
WTF so if you hate Squash and would never eat it, its ok to take it from a store and throw it away when you get home?
is it wrong? yes. but it's justified in my head. If I hadnt illegally downloaded a lot of music, I wouldnt know about these bands and would never have bought tix to their shows. Musicians make way more money from concerts than off CD's.
How is concert revenue doing? I'd imagine it's doing well and it's BECAUSE of piracy
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