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re: Obama and Scrubs and Lost

Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Bucky
Las Vegas
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Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:47 pm to
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my guess is you pick two of those right?

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:49 pm to
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Bucky


I don't know you man. You said Obama is not on the people side.

Please share with us your wisdom about the politician's who are on the people's side. Please pretty please with a cherry on top
Posted by Bucky
Las Vegas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:51 pm to
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Please share with us your wisdom about the politician's who are on the people's side.

Haven't met one yet... so I'd rather watch Scrubs or LOST than lies. /thread
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:52 pm to
I do agree with Bucky a bit on this. Obama is very, very corporate and at the end of the day, he will side with corporate interests.

Thus, by definition, he can not be a "communist" or "socialist", as the ignorant right wingers (as opposed to the rational conservatives--PLEASE, PLEASE get back into the political discourse. America needs an opposition party) like to call him.

Obama is the embodiment of a centrist, and if he doesn't play the game right, that will be his downfall.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:53 pm to
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Haven't met one yet... so I'd rather watch Scrubs or LOST than lies. /thread


And that's a pathetic attitude, because it means that you've given up. Do you even vote?
Posted by Bucky
Las Vegas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:54 pm to
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Obama is very, very corporate and at the end of the day, he will side with corporate interests.

+1 I have no respect for a man that was elected to work with the people but his owned by Wall Street. I'd much rather watch my show then be fed his propaganda.
Posted by Bucky
Las Vegas
Member since Nov 2008
2517 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:55 pm to
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Do you even vote?

voted for Ron Paul on the Louisiana Taxpayers Party ticket for President
This post was edited on 4/24/09 at 1:56 pm
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:55 pm to
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None of you have said anything substantive regarding the President, and this thread exists because a freaking sitcom is being pre-empted for a prime time press conference being held by a first term President who has inherited two wars and a horrible economy (along with a host of other issues).


The fact that you can use "substantive" in any sentence that also mentions Obama is laughable.

I said this during the election and I'll say it again to you... Name ONE thing that Obama accomplished before election. One thing that he "organized" or whatever it is that he was doing, that resulted in a net positive change for the people he was serving. ONE piece of drafted, championed and passed legislation as Senator. Just ONE.

How about since the election???

frick Obama. frick everyone that voted for him. And frick this bullshite flag waving, "He's our President and deserves more respect" nonsense. I won't bitch about the TV programs during his speech, but I won't be watching this ridiculous excuse for a President spew his pablum puke either. I'll purposely go clean the toilets in my house and wish "If only it was this easy to flush him away."
This post was edited on 4/24/09 at 1:56 pm
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:57 pm to
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being the President of the United States of America, he deserves respect,

You can't mandate respect. Its either earned or given but it can't be mandated. I also see a difference between respecting the office and respecting the man. If there are some here who feel Obama has failed to earn their respect and who are unwilling to give it to him then that's their position to take.

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, but I'll expand on it: this thread is indicative of how the political right wing and this country are both going down the toilet.

Yes, the left has been beyond reproach these pass eight years. Its called political dissent and its valid regardless of where it originates.
Posted by Bucky
Las Vegas
Member since Nov 2008
2517 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 1:59 pm to
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Thus, by definition, he can not be a "communist" or "socialist", as the ignorant right wingers (as opposed to the rational conservatives--PLEASE, PLEASE get back into the political discourse. America needs an opposition party) like to call him.


Posted by TxTiger25
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
10289 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:01 pm to
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nah but we should certainly tell whoever is pres to F**K off cause we can't see scrubs


I'm sure you were glued to Bush's speeches with that kind of respect weren't you?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:06 pm to
Thank you for proving my point for me.

Instead of contributing to the discussion, you resorted to changing the topic and launching vulgar and personal attacks.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:10 pm to
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Thank you for proving my point for me.

Instead of contributing to the discussion, you resorted to changing the topic and launching vulgar and personal attacks.



So you can't think of ONE thing either. Thanks for proving MY point.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:11 pm to
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Yes, the left has been beyond reproach these pass eight years. Its called political dissent and its valid regardless of where it originates.


Again, more evidence that proves my point.

The downfall of the right has been people like Limbaugh having more power with Republicans than their own RNC chairman. It's these snarky little attacks instead of addressing issues. It's the focusing on foolish things instead of having and sticking to a true, conservative platform.

THAT has been the downfall of the political right.

The irony lies here: I recognize this pattern because it happened to the Left in the 1980s. One can argue that the Left has never recovered, because ever since Clinton's ascension, the Democratic party has been a centrist party. There is still a massive void in the American political left.

Anyone who thinks that Obama is a "liberal" is so out of touch with reality...
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:15 pm to
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So you can't think of ONE thing either. Thanks for proving MY point.


I never said that I couldn't name anything. I merely stated that I'm not going to allow you to hijack the topic at hand. Changing the topic is one of the last resorts that someone pulls out when they know that they are losing.


Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:22 pm to
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hijack


You are absolutely right. Let's get back on topic....
I think Obama is a shithead and I am very upset that his empty, hollow, worthless speech will be pre-empting SCRUBS.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:24 pm to
You're entitled to your opinion.

How old are you, by the way? I'm just curious.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:25 pm to
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How old are you, by the way? I'm just curious.


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Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:25 pm to
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The downfall of the right has been people like Limbaugh having more power with Republicans than their own RNC chairman

I think you have a point to make but have things out of chronological order. The void in conservatives values begot Limbaugh not the other way around. He is not the cause of the Republican stumble but rather a creation of the void.

Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 4/24/09 at 2:29 pm to
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The void in conservatives values begot Limbaugh not the other way around. He is not the cause of the Republican stumble but rather a creation of the void.


Good point. Just like when the Democrats were fragmented and rudderless for much of the 1980s. Heck, in the years following Clinton's era, they were rudderless until Howard Dean, of all people, got them to rally together with his 50 state plan. Obama's rise was just the icing on the cake that was being baked since 2006.
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