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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)

Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:29 pm to
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I never got the hate for the public defender. He is given a client that has just confessed to the murder. What plan are you supposed to follow after that?


Did you not see how the only two competent law practitioners in the documentary handled it?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 1:30 pm to
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His mom was outside the room the 1st time he confessed. She consented to the interview



No, no she was not, and no she did not consent.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 1:48 pm to
Yep, the da came off as a creep in the series even before the revelation
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 1:52 pm to
I said the majority...almost 85%..?if you are killed it will be r NY someone you know..
Look up the stats, its why police target family and ran to OJ house

Being murdered by strangers is sensationalized but rare
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 1:57 pm to
Almost only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades.

Also, the guy didn't almost kill her, he wasn't even charged with attempted murder, probably because he didn't even attempt to kill her.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 1:58 pm to
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No, no she was not, and no she did not consent.


I honestly think you are just messing with me now. You watched the show, he was sitting on the couch and she came inside, then sat next to him.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:01 pm to
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I honestly think you are just messing with me now. You watched the show, he was sitting on the couch and she came inside, then sat next to him

This is true. However, the mom later said in one of the last two episodes that she wanted to go in, but they wouldn't let her. This was said after one of the interrogating detectives said under oath that she had the option to come in but opted not to. So yes she was there but may not have been allowed to go in.

In regards to that, it really comes down to her word against his.
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 6:03 pm
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:10 pm to
I was thinking about the interview where they pulled him from school and at the end he asked if he could return for 6th period. That's when they charged and arrested him. They didnt show his mom at all and I was thinking how can they interview a minor, especially one that is borderline retarded without guardian consent or a lawyer? Maybe she was there, but she wasn't shown, but I do remember her coming in and talking to him at another time or maybe the producers just edited like it was a separate time. Regardless she did say they wouldn't let her in during the interview.

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I went back and re-watched the end of episode 3 and yeah it was the same interview. They interrogated him for 3 hours and then let his mom in before they arrested him. She should have never allowed that, but I guess she never figured he would confess to rape and murder.
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:43 pm to
Did they ever explain why the judge would not let them point out how other people could have done it? They could only prove he didn't.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:47 pm to
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Did they ever explain why the judge would not let them point out how other people could have done it?


I never heard an explanation. Judge's prerogative, I guess. I was also wondering why the same judge presided over the appeal? wtf?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:55 pm to
Yeah, that does seem like a conflict of interest.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:59 pm to
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I never heard an explanation. Judge's prerogative, I guess


State law (seems like a bad one.)

quote:

I was also wondering why the same judge presided over the appeal? wtf?


really bad law (if legal to being with)
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:25 pm to
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I was also wondering why the same judge presided over the appeal?


That was the original post-conviction motion for a new trial.

Appeals are panels, almost without exception.
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 9:26 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:25 pm to
he didn't want to miss wrestlemania.
Posted by Cole Beer
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:56 am to
Dead Certainty--New Yorker article

Y'all, the link I posted takes you to a really good article about the show. Goes pretty in depth but not a super long read.
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 2:22 pm to
Just finished episode 4. This whole case is one big clusterfrick.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 3:41 pm to
That article beats around the bush for a while, but I do agree with the sentiment. The documentary had a narrative to sell as much as the sheriffs department. Granted, a mans future wasn't hanging in the balance as a result of their documentary and they never swore an oath in court.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 3:42 pm
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Dead Certainty--New Yorker article

Y'all, the link I posted takes you to a really good article about the show. Goes pretty in depth but not a super long read.


So basically they berate the two producers because they never prove who killed her.

If nothing else this documentary shows some of the shitty evidence and tactics that is used against people in trials. For that it is a positive.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 4:16 pm to
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You watched the show


Did you?
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:42 pm to
Lots of hype for this show.


Is it really THAT good?
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