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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Lots of hype for this show.
Is it really THAT good?
Is it really THAT good?
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:57 pm to CocoLoco
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Is it really THAT good?
No, it's just very addictive and you feel outraged, then disbelief watching it. You just can't believe that it could happen to somebody.. then you do some research and you find out that is pretty much a smoke show and it's not as big of a deal as you thought it was..
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:04 pm to brmark70816
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then you do some research and you find out that is pretty much a smoke show and it's not as big of a deal as you thought it was..
just because he did it, does not mean the justice system was flawed during the entire investigation and trial. it wasnt about trying to say Avery was innocent. It's more about how flawed our justice system can really be. There's no doubt that the cops did some very crooked things and got away with it.
I also think the nephew got railroaded into a life sentence that he more than likely didn't deserve. He was probably the biggest target of injustice.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:07 pm to brmark70816
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then you do some research and you find out that is pretty much a smoke show and it's not as big of a deal as you thought it was..
If you do some more research you'll find that it's becoming more and more likely that Avery's conviction will be getting overturned.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:36 pm to BlacknGold
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think the nephew got railroaded into a life sentence that he more than likely didn't deserve. He was probably the biggest target of injustice.
Easily the most infuriating part of the series.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:38 pm to 13SaintTiger
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If you do some more research you'll find that it's becoming more and more likely that Avery's conviction will be getting overturned.
I'd take that bet. We shall see...
Although, he is guilty of one of the counts no matter what. He is a 3 time felon that possessed an illegal gun. The maximum penalty for that is 10 years in prison. He has only been in prison 8 years. I'm not sure how he would get out of that or sue for it being totally justified..
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:04 pm to CocoLoco
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Is it really THAT good?
Depends what you mean by "good". It won't win any awards, but it did an excellent job of bringing Steven Avery and his treatment to the mainstream.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:04 pm to brmark70816
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then you do some research and you find out that is pretty much a smoke show
You've been proven wrong at every step in this thread. Don't you get tired of it?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You've been proven wrong at every step in this thread. Don't you get tired of it?
I've never been proven wrong. I've been crushing it for quite awhile. Not sure what you are referring to.. sorry..
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:02 pm to brmark70816
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Not sure what you are referring to
Pick any reply to any post you've made in here. 9/10, you got wrecked. Sorry bout it.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Pick any reply to any post you've made in here. 9/10, you got wrecked. Sorry bout it.
Thanks, but that has never happened. I'm glad you are looking out for me though..
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:07 pm to brmark70816
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Thanks, but that has never happened.
It literally happened on this page.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It literally happened on this page.
Where? I must have missed that..
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:27 pm to brmark70816
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I must have missed that..
Cool. This isn't new for you either.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:34 pm to brmark70816
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He is a 3 time felon that possessed an illegal gun. The maximum penalty for that is 10 years in prison
And wow, that just says it all.
You get 10 years in prison for murder in Europe.
In America, you get 10 years for owning a firearm or having a bag of cocaine on you.
And everyone goes along with this prison-lock-up craziness mentality in America.
We are a nation that made everything illegal - so everyone could get locked up for whatever reason - we are the least free in the world...everything is a crime in America, from smoking cigs to driving a car with too long mudflaps to smoking weed, to being in contempt of cop.
We are boot-lickers.
America puts more people in prison than half the world combined.
Are we more violent? Nope.
We just have more laws where everything you do is illegal and half of the prisoners are in there for stupid drug crimes.
Nobody should get life in prison for drugs - hell you could murder 3 people in France and not get life in prison.
You drive without a valid license 3 times and you get a year in prison. It's crazy.
So which country has the most laws regulating its citizenry? After looking high and low I discovered that the country with the most laws—not just today, but in all of history is the United States.
We not only have the most laws in all of history, but we also turn out more new laws and regulations to manage our people every single year than most countries turn out in decades.
How can it be that the world’s freest country needs more laws to tell its people what to do than the Soviet Union, Red China, Nazi Germany, or any two-bit banana republic dictatorship?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:36 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Cool. This isn't new for you either.
Probably not. I'm guessing you are referring to the guy saying the conviction is more likely to be overturned now. Which is of course true and I never debated. Before the show, he had pretty much no chance. Now he has powerful attorneys representing him and a bunch of saps trying to get him released. So yes, his chances have greatly improved. Luckily, he is out of appeals and the governor won't pardon him. But there might be some kind of other recourse. I'm sure they will do whatever it takes..
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:28 pm to brmark70816
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Luckily, he is out of appeals and the governor won't pardon him.
What do you have against the Constitution? At a minimum, they should each receive a new trial. Anyone that argues otherwise doesn't understand it, or they'd rather see him locked up than support it. I'm not sure which is more dangerous, but both are undeniably ignorant.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:29 pm to brmark70816
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'm sure they will do whatever it takes..
I would hope so.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:51 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And wow, that just says it all.
So you want violent felons, especially one that threatened a woman with a gun and served 6 years for it, to legally be allowed to own a firearm?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:20 am to BlacknGold
Yeah, the whole time you think Avery could have done it. The frustrating part is that they gave a man life in prison and some of the evidence used made you scratch your head. How do you stab, shoot, slit the throat, and cut off the hair of a woman and not find any hair or blood anywhere. I know that it did not happen the way it was portrayed in court. He may have done it, but not that way. Also, just some really controversial things allowed by the court. Why Manitowoc County was ever there is beyond me, and they happened to be there to find every major piece of eveidence.
The kid's story is just sad. What his first appointed attorney and private investigator did to him was morally reprehensible and legally wrong. They were blatantly working with the state to get his statement against his uncle. The last episode proved how he was on the news talking about how the kid was guilty and plea bargains and he hadn't even met with the kid yet. The fact that the kid cannot get a retrial makes me think something is fishy with the appeals court. I definitely think he had nothing to do with it. Crazy that his uncle can get the rape, false imprisonment, and mutilation charges dropped, but the kid is guilty with 0 evidence other than an obviously fabricated story where they threaten to tell his mom he is lying if he doesn't say what they want to hear. Truly dispicable.
The kid's story is just sad. What his first appointed attorney and private investigator did to him was morally reprehensible and legally wrong. They were blatantly working with the state to get his statement against his uncle. The last episode proved how he was on the news talking about how the kid was guilty and plea bargains and he hadn't even met with the kid yet. The fact that the kid cannot get a retrial makes me think something is fishy with the appeals court. I definitely think he had nothing to do with it. Crazy that his uncle can get the rape, false imprisonment, and mutilation charges dropped, but the kid is guilty with 0 evidence other than an obviously fabricated story where they threaten to tell his mom he is lying if he doesn't say what they want to hear. Truly dispicable.
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