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re: New Netflix docu-series "Making a Murderer" (Spoilers)
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:47 pm to fightingtiger2335
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:47 pm to fightingtiger2335
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But the ex was kinda pointed out in the series...giving that one woman a phone to call them and no one else..him being let through police lines during the search is easy time to drop the bones he may have had. Knowing the girls passwords and such.
Someone deleted some of the voicemails....boyfriend and brother only ones who claimed to know it
That part was odd.
Didn't they say the woman "stumbled" upon the Rav 4 in a 40 acre park within 10 minutes or so?
Now I'm wavering again. Will probably read more of the reddit thread.
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:48 pm to JBeam
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new German resident theory.
Can you elaborate or send a link on this one?
Would be pretty awesome if the popularity of the documentary somehow led to justice if that is the case.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:50 pm to STLhog
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:07 pm to STLhog
quote:Yes, the aunt of the victim somehow "stumbled upon" the car. Her entire testimony was odd to me.
Didn't they say the woman "stumbled" upon the Rav 4 in a 40 acre park within 10 minutes or so?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:10 pm to Mouth
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I'm in the not guilty club.
Same. Unless he has this super crazy hidden side that he has been really good at concealing, then I just simply dont think he did it. I think he basically just said, "well, if they're dead set on putting me in prison, then I can't really fight it". He felt outnumbered, out-thought.
The whole house investigation, where he just let them look through their area for 8 days without any resistance also seemed very telling that he truly wasnt involved, but sadly, his desire to display his own innocence is what likely allowed him to be set up for guilt.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:14 pm to brmark70816
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Thats how the tube is filled up. That is the system. One needle in the donor, another in the vial. The show did a horrible job explaining that. Blood is removed by removing the top.
Lol
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:16 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:I still can't get over that entire situation. Why on earth did they need 8 fricking days to search his property.
The whole house investigation, where he just let them look through their area for 8 days without any resistance also seemed very telling that he truly wasnt involved, but sadly, his desire to display his own innocence is what likely allowed him to be set up for guilt.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:18 pm to JBeam
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Found this right after I finished the series on reddit. LINK
What the frick. Sounds almost exactly like how SA got screwed the first time. That guy actually SHOWS tons of behavior that correlates to committing a heinous crime. This story needs to be confirmed, and needs to be known, big TIME. The guy needs to be found, and they need to get that side of the story going BIG TIME. That was in 2009.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:22 pm to 13SaintTiger
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No it isn't, quit spewing lies. The lab tech said specifically they don't fill tubes like that.
No. He's correct. There are previous posts about this in this thread, but the lab Corp person was specifically talking about removing blood from the tube, not filling it up. The point of the top is to create a vacuum and keep out contaminants. Once the blood is inside, you can take the top off to get to it. There's no need to stick a needle into the top. I have drawn blood on patients before. The part in the documentary was at the time of the discovery, and the hole in the top was never brought up again because it didn't fit the narrative that the documentary is trying to tell.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:27 pm to Captain Crown
Just finished first few episodes. Sure there is plenty of people to blame but where are jurors culpability?
I was on a death penalty murder case. I was sequestered for weeks. I can't imagine convicting the first case. And watching the third episode gives me serious doubts about the murder.
Do they ever interview jurors? I mean it just goes to show you how dumb the average American is and how easily they convict people.
I was on a death penalty murder case. I was sequestered for weeks. I can't imagine convicting the first case. And watching the third episode gives me serious doubts about the murder.
Do they ever interview jurors? I mean it just goes to show you how dumb the average American is and how easily they convict people.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:32 pm to fouldeliverer
quote:Keep watching. You'll get one juror members perspective.
Do they ever interview jurors? I mean it just goes to show you how dumb the average American is and how easily they convict people.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:34 pm to Yellerhammer5
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No. He's correct. There are previous posts about this in this thread, but the lab Corp person was specifically talking about removing blood from the tube, not filling it up. The point of the top is to create a vacuum and keep out contaminants. Once the blood is inside, you can take the top off to get to it. There's no need to stick a needle into the top. I have drawn blood on patients before. The part in the documentary was at the time of the discovery, and the hole in the top was never brought up again because it didn't fit the narrative that the documentary is trying to tell.
The lab tech said they dont put small holes in vials.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:45 pm to 13SaintTiger
I am through the trial and they are waiting on verdict.
He was guilty IMHO.
His past made the police over zealous in the rape case when he was wrongly convicted--he set a cat on fire, shook his penis at women and other crazy things.
The defense lawyers were good but when you look at the facts it is crazy to think anyone else killed the lady.
He was guilty IMHO.
His past made the police over zealous in the rape case when he was wrongly convicted--he set a cat on fire, shook his penis at women and other crazy things.
The defense lawyers were good but when you look at the facts it is crazy to think anyone else killed the lady.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
They only found shite on the 7th try in 8 days at the compound. It was always Manitowoc people coming up with shite. They weren't supposed to be that involved in the first place. They fricked up the bones by not processing them correctly. Aunt had God lead her to the car in minutes. No blood in the room where this girl's throat was cut. DNA on a bullet contaminated, but still allowed.....
This thing is a damned mess, and reasonable doubt t abounds. Saddest part is Brendan and the complete injustice for that poor kid.
This thing is a damned mess, and reasonable doubt t abounds. Saddest part is Brendan and the complete injustice for that poor kid.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:50 pm to 13SaintTiger
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The lab tech said they dont put small holes in vials.
Then how does the blood get inside the vacuum tube, Einstein?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:51 pm to JBeam
shite like this is why Lael was smart to not talk right away or without a lawyer
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:51 pm to I B Freeman
quote:ummmm what proof do you have of this happening?
His past made the police over zealous in the rape case when he was wrongly convicted--he set a cat on fire, shook his penis at women and other crazy things.
quote:You might want to look a bit closer.
The defense lawyers were good but when you look at the facts it is crazy to think anyone else killed the lady.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:59 pm to 13SaintTiger
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No it isn't, quit spewing lies. The lab tech said specifically they don't fill tubes like that
Well the lawyer's words were that the lab says "they don't do that."
I think perhaps they called the people that test the blood, not the people that drew the blood. Sometimes those two are the same, but often times they're not.
There does need to be a hole for the blood to get in the tube, however whoever is testing the blood for whatever will simply remove the top.
Still doesn't explain when and why Lenk accessed it, though it didn't really matter once the "new test" that the FBI developed concluded that there was no EDTA in the blood sample found in the car.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:04 pm to Goldrush25
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Still doesn't explain when and why Lenk accessed it, though it didn't really matter once the "new test" that the FBI developed concluded that there was no EDTA in the blood sample found in the car.
No detectable EDTA I'm the car sample. The best thing would have been to test the vial as well as a control. However, I tend to think that the blood was not planted. I'm more skeptical of the bullet and keys.
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