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re: NETFLIX virtue signaling is getting out of hand
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:53 pm to SEClint
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:53 pm to SEClint
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Its because audience intelligence is being insulted. When story is obviously un-organic and current-dated, no matter what time period..to reflect current issues for absolutely no reason other than signaling, it becomes "less than".
I agree with you 100%. But in this instance, it was needed and relevant.
The role called for a dominate, man-hating, feminist. Her con was tricking the system and old people that she was a caring person. It makes sense that role is a woman. Harder to pull off as a man.
And the fact that she wouldn’t lay down for the mob called for a irrational mentality that would not bend the knee to men. She even said as much that men are all bark and not bite. She was wrong with the beatings she received.
And speaking of the judge, he was inept at his job and called out as a clueless family-court official. That role was given to a black man. There was no virtue signaling in this movie. Just a main character that was gay.
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:33 pm to kciDAtaE
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The role called for a dominate, man-hating, feminist
Tell us how this was important to the plot at all? You could’ve taken that out and not missed a beat. You don’t have to be a man-hating feminist to be a successful piece of shite con artist.
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Harder to pull off as a man.
Wat
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There was no virtue signaling in this movie.
Yet here we are. Many folks saying otherwise.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:42 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I bet you hold the fast and furious series in high regard
He lives his life a quarter simp at a time
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:21 am to drexyl
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they often fail horribly at writing women; instead of making a believable female protagonist they instead essentially make the lead female but with 100% male attributes. It's lazy writing.
To your point...
I tried Electric Dreams, based on Philip K Dick writings. Seemed like it was a few minutes into the first episode when they just threw in 2 chicks going at it in bed, out of the blue. It wasn't anything erotic or sensual, but more like the way a 15-year old boy might imagine two lesbos finger banging each other. It was just jammed in there, not based on the book, and odd and abrasive enough for me to just go back to the menu and find something else to watch.
It was kind of like the formulaic awkward banging scene that got continually reenacted in all those Black Mirror episodes, but with two chicks.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:31 am to 13SaintTiger
News flash; It’s not just Netflix, it’s everything
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:26 am to drexyl
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they often fail horribly at writing women; instead of making a believable female protagonist they instead essentially make the lead female but with 100% male attributes. It's lazy writing.
What happened to the Ellen Riley's of the world?
Now you can't just be a hero who is brave, you have to be able to kick Chuck Lidddel's arse IRL supposedly.
Give me back the female hero that isn't just a male. That's more interesting, more empowering and provides for a way better story.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:38 am to 13SaintTiger
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Yet here we are. Many folks saying otherwise.
Who? I’m the only person discussing the actual film you referenced. Everyone else is referring to movies in general.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:00 am to 13SaintTiger
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But me and my wife sat down to watch I Cared A Lot (#1 trending movie) and in the first 5 minutes, out of the blue the lead character is telling this man how he hates that he lost to someone with a vagina, he can’t standing losing to a female because he has a penis, etc. Completely irrelevant and of course the guy she was talking to looked like a southern redneck. And of course the lead was a lesbian. I reluctantly finished an abysmal movie that focused more on girl power than quality.
If you thought that movie was about girl power then I'm not sure what to tell you. You're right though, it was out of the blue (or it seemed to be at the beginning of the movie) but that was literally the whole idea; you thought she was this mild-mannered woman who was in the guardianship game to help people and then you abruptly find out she's crazy when she starts talking to the guy who just wants to see his mom.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:10 am to kciDAtaE
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:15 am to NEMizzou
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but that was literally the whole idea; you thought she was this mild-mannered woman who was in the guardianship game to help people and then you abruptly find out she's crazy
There are thousands of other ways to come off crazy than saying “you can’t stand to lose to someone with a vagina, girl power”. I am unsure how you think it has to be that and how the blatant in your face rhetoric is overlooked. I mean that’s fine if it’s not annoying to you, but it’s annoying to me because it sullies the story and is not needed or important to paint the character as unredeemable or crazy.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:34 am to 13SaintTiger
Did you finish the movie? Because it had a payoff there.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:57 am to 13SaintTiger
No one in that other thread is talking about virtue signaling. You are the only one.
It’s not virtue signaling if the character in question is morally bankrupt. It’s quite the opposite. They made the lesbian the worst person in the movie when it comes to moral ethics.
Spoilers....
Clueless judge that allows this to go on - black man
Shady doctor forging reports - woman
Ring leader and worst character - lesbian
Person who comes up with an idea to end the violence and make billions of dollars legally - white man
The scene in the beginning is important since he is the guy who comes back and kills her after she talks shite. She threatened a man and he put a bullet in her heart.
It’s not a great movie and if a lesbian in the lead role is upsetting to you, I get it. But there is no virtue signaling. I’m sure even the lesbians are upset with that character even if it’s just because they made her an attractive blonde instead of a butch.
It’s not virtue signaling if the character in question is morally bankrupt. It’s quite the opposite. They made the lesbian the worst person in the movie when it comes to moral ethics.
Spoilers....
Clueless judge that allows this to go on - black man
Shady doctor forging reports - woman
Ring leader and worst character - lesbian
Person who comes up with an idea to end the violence and make billions of dollars legally - white man
The scene in the beginning is important since he is the guy who comes back and kills her after she talks shite. She threatened a man and he put a bullet in her heart.
It’s not a great movie and if a lesbian in the lead role is upsetting to you, I get it. But there is no virtue signaling. I’m sure even the lesbians are upset with that character even if it’s just because they made her an attractive blonde instead of a butch.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:59 am to kciDAtaE
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No one in that other thread is talking about virtue signaling. You are the only on
Read the whole thread.
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if a lesbian in the lead role is upsetting to you
Don’t be an ignorant patronizing fool. I love it, any time someone criticizes anything remotely related to a disenfranchised group, the go to response is “you bigot”. Not a whole lot that other people do in their own lives bothers me, I don’t need to justify that to you so let’s keep on topic.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:08 am to 13SaintTiger
Naw brah if your complaint is virtue signaling while the movie actively has you rooting against the morally corrupt lesbians and for the drugging running, murder calling, monster monster that's only virtue is his soft spot for his mama, then you don't have a complaint.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:20 am to ZappBrannigan
There are nuances that, if picked up on, support my complaint. Maybe I’m looking too much into it. I’ll give the benefit of the doubt though. At least you didn’t revert to “minority stuff just bothers you!!”.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:32 am to 13SaintTiger
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I Cared A Lot
I turned to my wife 30min in and had to ask "who are we supposed to be rooting for?" None of the characters had any redeeming qualities. I wanted everyone to die, including the director and producer.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:39 am to 13SaintTiger
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How hard is it to do something original or at the very least move on from marginalizing minorities and females.
These movies are propaganda first. And storytelling is a second priority at best.
You can see that in the casting by quota.
They care more about the color or someone’s skin, then their acting ability, or their fit within the story.
These movies are no different than the garbage the Soviets produced to glorify the revolution.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:29 pm to Lima Whiskey
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These movies are propaganda first. And storytelling is a second priority at best.
You just have to walk into most new films/series assuming that the majority of the female/minority characters have some sort of superpower. Problem solved
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:35 pm to CunningLinguist
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You do realize Ava is not a Netflix original movie correct? They stream it now.
Why should that stop him from coming to TigerDroppings to do a little virtue signaling?
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