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Netflix does a disservice with its Stranger Things release format
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:51 pm
Look, everyone loves being able to stream all of the episodes at once, but by releasing them all, it actually hurts shows like Stranger Things.
Look at the M/TV board -- maybe 2 threads that you basically can't comment on until after all 8 episodes in fear of reveling plot ending.
If his show were on HBO or even release Sunday night at 7 pm every week on Netflix, the whole damn platform would be blowing up. The whole front page would be Stranger Things for days. And With 6 days between episodes, the hype builds and builds and then the crazy fan theories and breakdowns come out as well.
Then the media jumps on board and there are news stories and features and podcast breakdowns floating around everywhere.
The show would be the center of the entertainment universe right now.
And then, the ending and the character in S3 who goes away would be mourned and written about even more.
I've said it before, but the hype wouldn't be GoT level, but it would own the summer, especially now that everyone is feverishly still trying to get GoT finale out of their system and hunting foe either a new or high quality show.
Netflix shoudk really rethink their format on their huge premiere shows. (Stranger Things being the only one I can really think of)
Look at the M/TV board -- maybe 2 threads that you basically can't comment on until after all 8 episodes in fear of reveling plot ending.
If his show were on HBO or even release Sunday night at 7 pm every week on Netflix, the whole damn platform would be blowing up. The whole front page would be Stranger Things for days. And With 6 days between episodes, the hype builds and builds and then the crazy fan theories and breakdowns come out as well.
Then the media jumps on board and there are news stories and features and podcast breakdowns floating around everywhere.
The show would be the center of the entertainment universe right now.
And then, the ending and the character in S3 who goes away would be mourned and written about even more.
I've said it before, but the hype wouldn't be GoT level, but it would own the summer, especially now that everyone is feverishly still trying to get GoT finale out of their system and hunting foe either a new or high quality show.
Netflix shoudk really rethink their format on their huge premiere shows. (Stranger Things being the only one I can really think of)
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 4:52 pm
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:55 pm to Jack Ruby
I agree with you. I don't think it will change, but I do miss the enjoyment of discussing a show before it's completed. You are exactly right about avoiding threads until you are done. My wife and I finished episode 4 last night. I'd love to see what other people think, but I can't open those threads knowing everyone in it has finished.
For season 2, I brought up trying this with my group of friends. We'd only watch an episode a week so we can discuss it when we hang out. It didn't go over well. So, I assume Netflix boardroom discussions are similar.
For season 2, I brought up trying this with my group of friends. We'd only watch an episode a week so we can discuss it when we hang out. It didn't go over well. So, I assume Netflix boardroom discussions are similar.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:56 pm to Jack Ruby
There are a lot of pros and cons to the binge format. I personally agree with you and wish most shows were released in blocks.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:57 pm to BlacknGold
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There are a lot of pros and cons to the binge format.
this.
give me episodic release tho
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:58 pm to Jack Ruby
I wrote A thread that these shows on Netflix are basically 8 hour movies and at some point they’ll be released like that
Got panned by people who couldn’t understand you can pause a movie...
Got panned by people who couldn’t understand you can pause a movie...
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:58 pm to Jack Ruby
I actually agree with this.
As frustrating as it can be to wait for a show week to week it also builds buzz and fuels interest in a way that binging an entire season over a weekend simply can't do. I watched all of ST3 in a single day. Talked about it with a few people for the next 3 or 4 days, did a few posts here, and then I was essentially done and on to the next show (one that isn't even on Netflix).
Had it been released week to week we would all be in much larger season long threads talking about it, talking to friends and co-workers about it, gobbling up articles about the Starcourt Mall that are slowly dripped out, talking about all the 80s references in each and every episode and how they might relate to the show at large, etc etc etc.
Not only that, but since we would all have to go back to Netflix once a week to watch the new episodes the odds of some of us noticing and watching OTHER Netflix content would increase. Since it all dropped at once the wife and I went directly to Stranger Things, watched it all in a sitting, promptly shut off Netflix, and have yet to go back to it b/c we are now watching shows on different platforms.
As frustrating as it can be to wait for a show week to week it also builds buzz and fuels interest in a way that binging an entire season over a weekend simply can't do. I watched all of ST3 in a single day. Talked about it with a few people for the next 3 or 4 days, did a few posts here, and then I was essentially done and on to the next show (one that isn't even on Netflix).
Had it been released week to week we would all be in much larger season long threads talking about it, talking to friends and co-workers about it, gobbling up articles about the Starcourt Mall that are slowly dripped out, talking about all the 80s references in each and every episode and how they might relate to the show at large, etc etc etc.
Not only that, but since we would all have to go back to Netflix once a week to watch the new episodes the odds of some of us noticing and watching OTHER Netflix content would increase. Since it all dropped at once the wife and I went directly to Stranger Things, watched it all in a sitting, promptly shut off Netflix, and have yet to go back to it b/c we are now watching shows on different platforms.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:02 pm to Dr RC
From a business model standpoint
If all I wanted To do was watch a stranger Things releasing 8 episodes over 8 weeks would guarantee I oay For 2 months.
But Netflix is all about binge watching, and honestly I love It.
So they need like 1 good thing a month st least.
It’s like if you have a whole bunch of methZ it is great to stretch that meth out sure
But I’m gonna do it all at once and I know It. And I want It
If all I wanted To do was watch a stranger Things releasing 8 episodes over 8 weeks would guarantee I oay For 2 months.
But Netflix is all about binge watching, and honestly I love It.
So they need like 1 good thing a month st least.
It’s like if you have a whole bunch of methZ it is great to stretch that meth out sure
But I’m gonna do it all at once and I know It. And I want It
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:15 pm to Jack Ruby
Some platforms will release two or three episodes at a time.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:22 pm to SammyTiger
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From a business model standpoint
well the business model is a little flawed because it takes longer for a new season to be released because Netflix waits about a month before committing. so no writers room open until then.
Netflix is exploring the block released so they could cut down the time between seasons. although they are also doing more 18-20 episode orders and releasing them in parts, like Sabrina.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:25 pm to Jack Ruby
I think if they knew the episode release would be weekly instead of the entire season being released, they'd shoot their episodes significantly different.
The writing and everything assumes a binge format. They dont have to place too much emphasis on the beginning and end because they know the next episode is coming immediately.
The writing and everything assumes a binge format. They dont have to place too much emphasis on the beginning and end because they know the next episode is coming immediately.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:36 pm to BlacknGold
There were a lot of shows they released pretty consistently and they renew some shows relatively quickly.
Stranger things wanted a longer hiatus probably so mike could finish growing 20 inches and get through the worst of his voice dropping.
Stranger things wanted a longer hiatus probably so mike could finish growing 20 inches and get through the worst of his voice dropping.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:38 pm to SammyTiger
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There were a lot of shows they released pretty consistently and they renew some shows relatively quickly.
I can promise you this isn't the case. It's based on a 28 day watch metric.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:40 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I think if they knew the episode release would be weekly instead of the entire season being released, they'd shoot their episodes significantly different.
probably not. it's still not cable with no "set" release schedule. Netflix would more than likely still open the room early and have all scripts done before going into production. also, the release date is fluid, so you could still have all the episodes done and release weekly or release in blocks.
the biggest thing it would affect is probably the post schedule.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:44 pm to BlacknGold
I mean Go look at some of thei shows.
House of cards dropped
Feb 1 2013
Feb 14 2014
Feb 27 2015
March 4 2016
That’s pretty consistent.
Orange is the New Black droped in June Or July since 2013
If there was any real delay caused by not renewing shouldn’t each season be progressively later?
Plus even if they waited 28 days idk how that causes more delays than 22 episode tv shows where they don’t renew till the end of a 4 month season.
House of cards dropped
Feb 1 2013
Feb 14 2014
Feb 27 2015
March 4 2016
That’s pretty consistent.
Orange is the New Black droped in June Or July since 2013
If there was any real delay caused by not renewing shouldn’t each season be progressively later?
Plus even if they waited 28 days idk how that causes more delays than 22 episode tv shows where they don’t renew till the end of a 4 month season.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:48 pm to SammyTiger
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House of cards
Licensed show through MRC, not produced by Netflix.
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Orange is the New Black
Licensed show through Lionsgate, not produced by Netflix.
I'm talking about owned shows by Netflix such as Stranger Things.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:49 pm to SammyTiger
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Plus even if they waited 28 days idk how that causes more delays than 22 episode tv shows
because they dont have every script before they start production. they write while the shoot.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:52 pm to Dr RC
I agree and disagree with that you have said. The only reason why they do it this way is because of the short attention spans that the under 40 crowds have.
I really hope Disney takes note of this with their Marvel shows and if they have multiple seasons of the Mandalorian.
I really hope Disney takes note of this with their Marvel shows and if they have multiple seasons of the Mandalorian.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:55 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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I agree and disagree with that you have said.
Everything I said has nothing to do with the reason to binge. I was saying why there is a gap between seasons and why Netflix is exploring other options. Those aren't an opinion. That's how it operates.
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The only reason why they do it this way is because of the short attention spans that the under 40 crowds have.
Right, but it's a two fold problem because then by the time most season 2s come out, viewers no longer care and it's why you see a TON of shows only get 2-3 seasons, if that. and the viewership between season is typically low. obviously there are exceptions like Stranger Things which is a global phenomenon.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:55 pm to BlacknGold
What’s the difference between Lionsgate and the production company for Stranger Things?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:56 pm to Jack Ruby
You guys want me to start a thread for every episode again?
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