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re: Netflix does a disservice with its Stranger Things release format
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:58 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:58 pm to SammyTiger
Lionsgate put up the money and actually produced the show. Netflix is just the distributor, like an indie film that gets a national release through a bigger company.
Netflix physically made and paid for Stranger Things.
Netflix physically made and paid for Stranger Things.
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:59 pm to Jack Ruby
Netflix announced 40 million people have started watching it already so I think their model is fine. I still haven't started it yet and will get to it in a few weeks. No one is forcing you to watch 8 hours straight of the same show. People need to have some self control.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:00 pm to BlacknGold
I mean is that difference than a lot of network shows? New shows flop all the time.
AP Bio was brilliant and got canceled mid season 2.
Bad shows aren’t going to make it no matter what the format.
AP Bio was brilliant and got canceled mid season 2.
Bad shows aren’t going to make it no matter what the format.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:01 pm to Brosef Stalin
You are using Stranger Things (the biggest show) as an example. That's like HBO saying their whole model is fine because of Game of Thrones, yet we know a ton of shows like the Brink for example that didnt even get a season 2.
You cant pick the biggest show as the example of the entire model working.
You cant pick the biggest show as the example of the entire model working.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:02 pm to SammyTiger
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Bad shows aren’t going to make it no matter what the format.
you are misunderstanding viewership and production.
A licensed show will have a faster pick up because Netflix isn't the one deciding to put up money for the next season.
When Netflix owns the show, it has a longer gap.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:03 pm to BlacknGold
You’re providing NO examples.
If anything more successful shows get away with inconsistent release dates.
If anything more successful shows get away with inconsistent release dates.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:05 pm to BlacknGold
The difference between netflix and a real network like HBO is that netflix doesn't have to worry about filling a limited number of time slots. HBO or some other channel basically only has 7-10pm to showcase their shows. Netflix can have all the shows they want and if its a netflix production they can keep it up as long as they want. HBO doesn't have the time to keep a failing show on air forever. A netflix show can get popular over time by word of mouth.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:07 pm to SammyTiger
Stranger Things, Glow, Mindhunter, On My Block are all Netflix shows made by Netflix.
Sigh. Most shows are/were licensed. with the streaming game changing to each company making their own service and now pulling their programming, the owned category is only 5 years old (roughly). moving forward, most shows will be Netflix for Netflix.
Sigh. Most shows are/were licensed. with the streaming game changing to each company making their own service and now pulling their programming, the owned category is only 5 years old (roughly). moving forward, most shows will be Netflix for Netflix.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:08 pm to Brosef Stalin
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A netflix show can get popular over time by word of mouth.
not really, because you need to keep making the show... it's not going to release a show then 2 years later say "ok yeah let's do it" and have a 4 year gap. the decision is made based on the first month of the launch.
lol I'm trying to tell yall how this works.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:11 pm to Jack Ruby
Without that format Stranger Things likely would never became the hit show it did. It was about as under a radar a release as could be season 1. The fact people were able to binge it immediately, fall in love with it, and then pass the word of mouth to friends caused it to explode.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:12 pm to BlacknGold
Glow came out In June 2017 and June 2018.
Mindhunters was renewed before it was released
On my block was released on March 2018 and March 2019
So again is it the process or that Netflix lets shows take the time they want?
Also most network shows aren’t renewed 4 episodes in (unless there is a huge success) so how does a 28 viewing metric delay these shows anymore than network tv?
If you said Netflix wants to space them out or gives shows more time I would Probably u defat and and agree.
Mindhunters was renewed before it was released
On my block was released on March 2018 and March 2019
So again is it the process or that Netflix lets shows take the time they want?
Also most network shows aren’t renewed 4 episodes in (unless there is a huge success) so how does a 28 viewing metric delay these shows anymore than network tv?
If you said Netflix wants to space them out or gives shows more time I would Probably u defat and and agree.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:14 pm to KingSlayer
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Without that format Stranger Things likely would never became the hit show it did. It was about as under a radar a release as could be season 1. The fact people were able to binge it immediately, fall in love with it, and then pass the word of mouth to friends caused it to explode.
that's a good point.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:17 pm to SammyTiger
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Also most network shows aren’t renewed 4 episodes in (unless there is a huge success) so how does a 28 viewing metric delay these shows anymore than network tv?
because Netflix does not open the writer's room until they know if the show will be picked up. Network doesn't operate like that, just like the whole script writing process. (all scripts vs writing while shooting)
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I would Probably u defat and and agree.
it's not an argument. go to the mindhunter thread on this forum. how did I know the exact release date well before it was announced...
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:23 pm to SammyTiger
Different shows have different costs and creative processes. Stranger Things is to Netflix what Game of Thrones was to HBO. It’s the biggest product you have, so you give the production staff the time and resources they need to make it a success (save the GOT jokes).
Now those cheaper shows that don’t really require much in the way of creativity - like The Ranch and other sitcoms - they can pump those out every 12 months with no problem.
Now those cheaper shows that don’t really require much in the way of creativity - like The Ranch and other sitcoms - they can pump those out every 12 months with no problem.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:23 pm to SammyTiger
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Got panned by people who couldn’t understand you can pause a movie...
I didn't criticize your post about that. Since that post, I've binged The Wire and Hanna. Enjoyed both, but miss the "Water cooler" conversation opportunities watching a show weekly gives you.
To me, that was the best part of watching Breaking Bad. Especially the first two or three years when there weren't as many people, but we did one thread for the whole season. We were all watching it every Sunday night, and commenting about what was happening during the show, and all week long leading up to the next week. There were people that post stuff they'd read about future episodes, but I skipped over those posts. It was all about sharing how freaked out an episode made you, and what you "thought" might happen next.
A month or two before the new season started someone would bump the previous season's threads, and we'd get all worked up for the new season. Watching it this way was the coolest shared TV watching experience I've ever experienced.
One year some guy started making up a weekly thread on Monday. We'd post in it all week about what might happen, post during the show, and for a day or two afterwards, and then go on to the next one. The thread from the week before was forgotten.
There are probably starting to be people here who just binge, and have never watched shows the old fashion way.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:33 pm to BlacknGold
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it's not an argument. go to the mindhunter thread on this forum. how did I know the exact release date well before it was announced...
Mindhunters was renewed before it aired.
And even if they renewed it 28 days after it was released it’s taken 2 years to get season 2.
When we’re they supposed to renew it?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:41 pm to SammyTiger
you are acting like every show is the exact same. also, it's a 28 day window. if a show comes out the gate hot, it's renewed immediately because of the production gap time. others are pulled right away like Chambers.
eta: there's another Netflix for Netflix show!
eta: there's another Netflix for Netflix show!
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:55 pm to Jack Ruby
I kinda agree but I really enjoyed binging the frick out of it on 4 of July weekend 
Maybe dropping the first 4 then 1 at a time would’ve been cool like some shows, but I’m good either way.
Maybe dropping the first 4 then 1 at a time would’ve been cool like some shows, but I’m good either way.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:58 pm to S
Yeah I got back from a long weekend, ate a few edibles, and binged it all Sunday afternoon/evening/night. It was great.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:00 pm to SammyTiger
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I wrote A thread that these shows on Netflix are basically 8 hour movies and at some point they’ll be released like that
Got panned by people who couldn’t understand you can pause a movie...
And you couldn’t understand that people like the convenient and purposeful stopping points of episodes
What would be the benefit of just releasing it as an 8 hour show?
And sure you can pause a movie, but I’m guessing most people don’t start one knowing theyre gonna pause it an hour in and continue it the next night. If I wanna watch a movie that’s 2 and half hours, I’ll watch it when I have 2 and a half hours to do so
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 7:07 pm
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