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re: Movies that Bear No Resemblance to Source Material

Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:37 pm to
David Lynch's Dune
Posted by pkloa
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:51 pm to
Apocalypse Now - Heart of Darkness
Scarface - Scarface (1939[?])

I consider the few similarities to be easter eggs, and my nerdiness loves it.
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:34 pm to
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out of curiosity how did starship troopers deviate from the source material?


In just about every meaningful way. I mean, they retained the character names but eliminated mechanized suits, nuclear weapons, the socio-political focus of the entire book, essentially completely rewrote the teacher's role, dropped the father-son dynamic that was a major part of the last half of the book, kept the psychic buddy alive for a mission he was never on when he should have been dead, and eliminated a 3rd major species that was involved in the war for good measure.

But, hey, aside from plot, characters, focus, and details, it's just the same.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:47 pm to
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Not sure about Super Mario Bros. Was there really source material to work with? Plumbers get transported to a world populated by turtles, toads, and a fire breathing reptile. I think the movie covered that pretty well...


I don't ever remember a city filled with reptiles, Bowser being human, or Goombas looking like they were captured by head hunters. Aside from Mario being a plumber, I can't think of a single thing they got right.
Posted by LSU-Tigers-Fan
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Dragonball Evolution
This
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:56 pm to
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That's like saying LeBron James resembles Jackie Joyner Kersey because, hey, they're both black!
horseshite.

The events carry through pretty well. What does not is the politics of the book. They went 180 degrees from that.

The movie is true to the film except for the political themes, imo.

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Starship Troopers was a ghastly abomination.
You are a ghastly abomination
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:59 pm to
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The events carry through pretty well. What does not is the politics of the book. They went 180 degrees from that. The movie is true to the film except for the political themes, imo.


The politics *are* the story. That's a huge part of the problem. The war is a backdrop, against which the politics are lived out by the characters.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:05 pm to
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The politics *are* the story.
No. The politics are a theme for the story. The conclusion in the movie is consistent with the book's politics.

The story was mankinds encroachment into the wilderness of space causing backlash in the form of a war with another species.

The politics were the seasoning, the war/buildup was the story.

Mostly, I've found that it is hard righties who get irritated with the thematic change.

The movie still comes across as right wing, just not as much as they'd like.

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The war is a backdrop, against which the politics are lived out by the characters.
I would say the opposite is true. After the classroom, the war is the story.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 3:06 pm
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:12 pm to
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No. The politics are a theme for the story.


No, they are the story.
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The conclusion in the movie is consistent with the book's politics.


It really isn't ; the books politics require personal sacrifice as a key element of the world-view; in the movie, there is little sacrifice.

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The story was mankinds encroachment into the wilderness of space causing backlash in the form of a war with another species. The politics were the seasoning, the war/buildup was the story.


Not at all; the story is about how mankind arrived at it's present circumstance, and the story of how Johnny Rico-- his family, his friends, and eventually his unit--- arrives at the same conclusions as being the only way forward. They can't even keep simple things like who lives, who dies, where they go, what they do, and how the novel climaxes the same.

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Mostly, I've found that it is hard righties who get irritated with the thematic change. The movie still comes across as right wing, just not as much as they'd like


You can't change the entire story and call it the same thing. If it didn't have the name Starship Troopers, it'd be fine as a stand alone sci-fi story of a society at war with a hostile alien species. Unfortunately, it has the Starship Troopers label-- and beyond cosmetics it has little to no more in common with the book than the movie Aliens does.

This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:29 pm to
Jaws. Movie was better than the novel.
Posted by lake2280
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:34 pm to
Forrest Gump , made Jenny to be a bitch! She wasn't and lived
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:45 pm to
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You can't say World War Z yet.


Yes, yes you can.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:58 pm to
Final Fantasy
Doom
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:19 pm to
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in the movie, there is little sacrifice.


Tell that to the dead on Klendathu.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 10:22 pm to
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Starship Troopers was a ghastly abomination.






Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 10:27 pm to
Clash of the titans. The more recent version. The original was much more accurate.
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:05 pm to
In the Starship Troopers book, aren't we the bad guys?
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