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Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:10 am to Fletch F Fletch
You can't really understand any of Allen's works, especially MiP, without reading Tillich's Eternal Now.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:11 am to TulaneLSU
Woody Allen is atheist.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:11 am to Leauxgan
I fail to see how that matters.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:14 am to TulaneLSU
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You can't really understand any of Allen's works, especially MiP, without reading Tillich's Eternal Now.
ha, I was trying to just have a nice conversation but now I have to agree with the previous poster, Tulane: you are the pedantic a-hole played by Michael Sheen...
i'll just have to move on from the film being completely ignorant of every single frame i saw, and i'll probably just need to not have an opinion of it at all to be on the safe side.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:16 am to TulaneLSU
meaning there is no theological basis to any of his work unless it's satire.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:17 am to Fletch F Fletch
Read the first four paragraphs of The Eternal Now, and you'll find Allen's view of Hemmingway's view of love. I thought it was well known that Allen was a fan of Tillich.
The entirety of serious atheism is based on theology.
The entirety of serious atheism is based on theology.
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:20 am to TulaneLSU
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I thought it was well known that Allen was a fan of Tillich.
I guess that's why a quick google search produces almost no relation?
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:23 am to TulaneLSU
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TulaneLSU
Charles Bronson alter?
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:24 am to Leauxgan
Do you base all your opinions on Google searches? Midnight in Paris, was to this viewer, a cinematic commentary on The Eternal Now. If you'd read the short book, you might understand why I say it. And if you read the rest of Tillich's work and watch Allen's movies, you can't but be persuaded by the thought that Allen is simply putting on film what Tillich put on paper.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:28 am to TulaneLSU
see, all you had to do was point me to those paragraphs at the beginning and i wouldn't have called you names, haha :matureadult:
Those paragraphs certainly seems to be the basis for the Hemingway monologue, but I much prefer Corey Stoll saying it.
and i have to agree somewhat on this: The entirety of serious atheism is based on theology. you can't truly shake off the chains of religion without looking at it and asking, why? if the answer you get back makes sense to you, then have fun in heaven. for me, none of it makes sense and history hasn't exactly proven it to be helpful at not destroying civilizations, so i choose not to subscribe.
Those paragraphs certainly seems to be the basis for the Hemingway monologue, but I much prefer Corey Stoll saying it.
and i have to agree somewhat on this: The entirety of serious atheism is based on theology. you can't truly shake off the chains of religion without looking at it and asking, why? if the answer you get back makes sense to you, then have fun in heaven. for me, none of it makes sense and history hasn't exactly proven it to be helpful at not destroying civilizations, so i choose not to subscribe.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:30 am to TulaneLSU
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Do you base all your opinions on Google searches?
If it was really common knowledge then there would be at least one page out of several billion that has a direct link between the two. Instead the only thing I could find is where Woody notes Tillich out of about 5 contemporary theologians that are also vaguely existentialist.
If he is an existentialist philosopher, then it's really no surprise that there is overlap. However you appear to be highlighting a false correlation.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:56 am to TulaneLSU
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Allen is simply putting on film what Tillich put on paper.
Sounds like the courts are gonna be busy.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:57 am to TulaneLSU
wait, Tulane, serious question. earlier in the thread i said the message i took from the film was to live in the present, because the past will never come again. then you pointed me to the link re: the Hemingway stuff.
were you pointing out the message you got from the film, or saying my opinion was wrong?
were you pointing out the message you got from the film, or saying my opinion was wrong?
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:59 am to Fletch F Fletch
No, because if you continue reading, Chapter 11 especially, you see that the moral of the movie is a recapitulation of that chapter.
LINK
If you read my original review, in the last sentence, you see I agree with you:
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If you read my original review, in the last sentence, you see I agree with you:
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At the end of the day, this movie succeeds in being a modern morality tale about living in the eternal now.
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 11:02 am
Posted on 7/19/11 at 11:00 am to TulaneLSU
right on. just wondering.
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